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This seems to interestingly prove the point made by the person this is in reply to. Breaking laws come with consequences. Not caring about a robots.txt file doesn't. But maybe it should.

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That's nice, Gitlab. Now do RSS feeds.

The top five RSS readers for keeping up with your news feeds ( www.theverge.com )

RSS readers allow you to collect the articles of specific sources in one app, making it a lot easier to find the content you’re interested in without crawling through a lot of noise. RSS (which may stand for Really Simple Syndication, Rich Site Summary, or one of several other possibilities — nobody seems sure) has been...

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Yeah. Anything worth developing takes up quite a bit of time and doing that for free doesn't really work out for many devs. Only one I can think of that's close to what you mentioned is maybe Thunderbird?

Sublinks Aims to Be a Drop-In Replacement for Lemmy ( wedistribute.org )

Seems like an interesting effort. A developer is building an alternative Java-based backend to Lemmy's Rust-based one, with the goal of building in a handful of different features. The dev is looking at using this compatibility to migrate their instance over to the new platform, while allowing the community to use their apps of...

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Lol how about one written in NodeJS? 😆

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Hey OP, I'm doing some research. You mind sharing that link in the description of your screenshot?

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Yeah but note by "public" they really mean "if the post doesn't require you to login". They recently implemented a feature that lets users choose for their posts to be "public" but still require a login to see it.

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Yup. And instead, they make us pay them for it. 🤡

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Mastodon has the responsibility to promote diversity in the Fediverse

I love the Threadiverse. Compared to the microblogging Fediverse’s sea of random thoughts, Lemmy and kbin are so much easier to navigate with the options to sort posts by subscribed, from local instances or everything federated. You can also sort by individual community, and then there are the countless ways to order the posts and comments (which are stored neatly under the main post, by the way). That people can more easily find the right discussions and see where they can contribute also means that the discussions tend to be more focused and productive than elsewhere. Decentralisation also makes a lot of sense, since it is built around different communities. All that’s needed is users.

Things were going quite well for a while when Reddit killed third-party apps, prompting many to leave and find the Threadiverse. However, it is quite difficult to entertain a crowd that has grown accustomed to a constant bombardment of dopamine-inducing or interesting content by tens of millions of users, if you only have a couple hundred thousand people. This is causing some to leave, which of course increases this effect. The active users have more than halved since July, according to FediDB. The mood is also becoming more tense. Maybe the lack of engagement drives some to cause it through hostility, I’m not quite sure. Either way, the Threadiverse becoming a less enjoyable place to be, which is quite sad considering how promising it is.

But what is really frustrating is that we could easily have that userbase. The entire Fediverse has over ten million users, and many Mastodonians clearly want to engage in group-based discussion, looking at Guppe groups. The focused discussions should also be quite attractive. Technically we are federated, so why do Mastodonians interact so little with the Threadiverse? The main reason is that Mastodon simply doesn’t federate post content. I really can’t see why the platform that federates entire Wordpress blogs refuses to federate thread content just because it has a title, and instead just replaces the body with a link to the post. Very unhelpful.

The same goes with PeerTube. There are plenty of videos on there that I am quite sure a lot of Mastodonians would appreciate, yet both views and likes there stay consistently in the tens. Yes, Mastodon’s web interface has a local video player, but in most clients it is the same link shenanigans, may may partly explain the small amount of engagement. This is also quite sad, because Google’s YouTube is one of the worst social network monopolies out there, if not the worst.

And I know some might say that Mastodon is a microblogging platform and that it makes sense only to have microblogging content, but the problem is that Mastodon is the dominant platform on the Fediverse, its users making up close to 80% of all Fedizens. It has gone so far that several Friendica and Hubzilla users have been complaining about complaints from Mastodonians that their posts do not live up to Mastodon customs, and of course, that people frequently use “Mastodon” to refer to the entire Fediverse. This, of course, goes entirely against the idea of the Fediverse, that many diverse platforms live in harmony with and awareness of each other.

The very least that Mastodon could do is to support the content of other platforms. Then I’d wish that they’d improve discoverability, by for instance adding a videos tab in the explore section, improving federation of favourites since it is the dominant sorting mechanism on many other platforms, and making a clear distinction between people (@person) and groups (!group), but I know that that is quite much to ask.

P.S. @feditips , @FediFollows , I know that you are reluctant to promote Lemmy and its communities because of the ideology of its founders, but the fact is firstly that it’s open source and there aren't any individual people who control the entire project, and that the software itself is very apolitical. In fact, most Lemmy users both oppose and are on instances that have rules against such beliefs, so I highly encourage you to at least help raise awareness on the communities. Then, of course, there’s kbin, which isn’t associated with any extremism at all. As a bonus, it has much better integration with the microblogging Fediverse, but it is a lot smaller and younger, and still very much under development.

Anyways, that was a ramble. Thanks for hearing me out.

@fediverse

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Agree. Different platforms have different purposes and the experiences probably should remain separate.

I always find these perspectives that want such a high level of fed integration peculiar when this can already be done using RSS feeds. It’s the whole reason they exist. To bring all of the updates from anywhere on the internet Mastodon updates, Pixelfed, Peertube, etc into one, single timeline view. The tools are already there for people to use if people want them.

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    RSS feeds are great for this! I’ve been using them for years. It allows you to build your own universal feed of everything on the internet. Open RSS is a organization that provides RSS feeds for any website. Here’s a good article that talks about what RSS feeds are.

    I use RSS feeds to follow Lemmy, Mastodon, and Kbin communities and even specific users. For example, the RSS feed for the community this was posted in is at

    openrss.org/lemmy.world/c/fediverse

    You just add that to your RSS reader app along with any other web feeds and you have a feed tailored to everything you want to follow, catered to your interests. And no algorithms because everything is always in chronological order.

    'Morale is at an all-time low': Ex-Googler writes scathing latter slamming layoffs and 'eroded' culture ( www.businessinsider.com )

    ‘Morale is at an all-time low’: Ex-Googler writes scathing latter slamming layoffs and ‘eroded’ culture::An ex-Googler wrote a 1,500-word letter criticizing the firm and CEO Sundar Pichai’s lack of “visionary leadership.”

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    When you’re ready for a new phone, check out the Fairphone! I got that with CalyxOS. Works and feels just like Pixel, but super private 👍

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    Neat! I follow Lemmy communities in an RSS feed so I can just filter right in my RSS reader. It’s pretty nice.

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    I appreciate keeping it short for us. Some comments on here are so long winded sometimes

    Free speech can’t flourish online — Social media is an outrage machine, not a forum for sharing ideas and getting at the truth ( www.ft.com )

    Free speech can’t flourish online — Social media is an outrage machine, not a forum for sharing ideas and getting at the truth::Social media is an outrage machine, not a forum for sharing ideas and getting at the truth

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    God I could kiss you. It’s so weird. People have been just saying what’s on their minds in chatrooms, forums, etc since the beginning of the internet, which was never scrutinized this much over being “factual”. They were just expressing themselves. But now all of sudden we need a PSA to stop it lol

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    The comments are always 🔥. They’re better than the videos most of the time…

    How come there isn't more torrent based technology

    Most of the problems in the current internet landscape is caused by the cost of centralized servers. What problems are stopping us from running the fediverse on a peer to peer torrent based network? I would assume latency, but couldn’t that be solved by larger pre caching in clients? Of course interaction and authentication...

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    I feel the same way about RSS feeds. It’s a technology meant to keep up with updates on nearly anything across the internet. Even social media sites. It’s been available for ages. But no one is pushing for sites to provide them. 🤷‍♂️

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    Just Mozilla being Mozilla… Taking forever to get impactful stuff like this released or to fix bugs that have been sitting around for years. Yet quick to add features to the browser most of us don’t need.

    I like what Mozilla is doing. But they seem to struggle with their priorities.

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    you could easily keep your identity across multiple forums and see the content from all your communities on one page

    RSS feeds have provided this experience for years. The problem is that a lot of sites stopped serving RSS feeds for their content. But sites like rss.app and openrss can be used to get RSS feeds for sites that don’t have them.

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    Yeah, sorry I was specifically replying to part about seeing the content from communities (or everything on the internet, really) in one view. Keeping your identity across multiple forums is platform-specific and would be solved by Lemmy directly. RSS feeds would just give you the updates and the links directly to the content. But once you click through to go to each website, you’d just be using your already-logged-in state on the platform.

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    I second the recommendation for Fairphone w/ CalyxOS. Feels just like having a Google Pixel running Android. Just way way more private.

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    No its for grandmas who want to be sexy but hate wearing high heels

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    If you use RSS feeds, you can use Open RSS. For instance you can subscribe to the comments on this post using this feed:

    openrss.org/lemmy.world/post/4010300

    Jitsi, the open-source video conferencing platform, now requires a Google, Microsoft, or Facebook account for their online service ( jitsi.org )

    While Jitsi is open-source, most people use the platform they provide, meet.jit.si, for immediate conference calls. They have now introduced a “Know Your Customer” policy and require at least one of the attendees to log in with a Facebook, Github (Microsoft), or Google account....

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    Yeah they’d have to maintain upgrades security patches etc and could get pricey depending on how much storage and bandwidth is involved.

    Rio – The Twitter-Platform where Birds can leave their Nests ( lemmy.world )

    And now something certainly no one asked for: a new Marketing Concept for Mastodon! Let’s face it: the bird icon and the whole birdy concept of Twitter was perfect marketing. It just was. Its so effortless, casual and simply fun. And now that Elon Musk gave it away - why not claim it for the Fediverse? The moment is almost too...

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    What do you think of this?

    Think it’s a terrible idea. For some reason people dont get that many of us are on the fediverse because we want to get as far away from anything that even remotely resembles, copies, piggybacks off of, or otherwise has anything to do with corporate-owned, centralized, ad-infested, user-hostile, privacy-invasive, social media platforms.

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    It’s unfortunate, but I doubt anything will be done about this. Guess we have to get used to seeing the same posts, and repeating ourselves in threads a lot.

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    Inoreader. Syncs across multiple devices too.

    Open source and privacy respecting website builders?

    I am trying to build a small website. I don’t know how to write HTML or JavaScript or CSS. I always hear sponsorships about SquareSpace from content creators such as TheLinuxExperiment. I understand that a website is public information but I want a builder that does not come with any unnecessary trackers, I.E. a noninvasive...

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    This is a duplicate post of lemm.ee/post/4849736. Was that intentional?

    We should have something like federated communities

    Communities on different instances about the same topic should have the option to essentially federate so a post on one appears on all of them and opening any of them shows you the comments from all of them. This way when lemmy.world is down its not a big deal because posting to any news community federates to all of the...

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    I agree. For the people that dont want to see your home feed cluttered with duplicate content, it may be time to just start subscribing to your favorite Lemmy communities using RSS feeds for more control.

    There’s an RSS feed for anything on Lemmy using Open RSS. For instance, the RSS feed for this community is here:

    openrss.org/lemmy.world/c/fediverse

    You can also get feeds for comments on specific posts.

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    Does anyone know what the author’s point is here? Failing to see it

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