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jabberati ,
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It is easy to cook up your own IM protocol, but for interoperability between providers (which is the whole point of using XMPP or Matrix in the first place!) we need to agree on a protocol. The way we agree on protocols is standardization. XMPP is the proper IETF internet standard for instant messaging while Matrix is effectively just another product by some startup with lots of venture capital funding for shiny clients and marketing.

Also, XMPP servers and clients are also a lot less bloated.

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deserves a set of more performant and native applications than being attributed to a page in 's playbook. Stay with me: are we really just going to blindly accept flaws of this messenger and promote it at the same time?

The fact that it only has got to the head of Discord it's long overdue to verify this popular distribution, I think, is worth a comment on itself, but I'll digress. It is nice that enthusiasts made arrangements for this verification and I have zero disagreements with the result. I'm just stupified that, in all this effort, Discord is treated like some spoon-fed royal baby - at least, according to reactions I see.

So, what was it... Flathub already had a library of nice actively developed before these news. I don't see the point in exaggerating the scales on some centralized chat thingabob with well-known and problems, that's all. Thank you for visiting my talk! ❤

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@vintprox @harald4toot PeerTube liegt vollkommen richtig auf den XMPP Standard zu setzten. Das Problem ist hier Matrix, das ein eigenes inkompatibles Protokoll zusammenkochen muss anstatt auf den bestehenden Internet Standards aufzubauen. Interoperabilität braucht halt einmal Standards, immer das Rad neu zu erfinden bringt nur Fragmentierung.

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Yet most users in public rooms seem to be either bridged from Telegram or Discord. They're not counting those users too, right?

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@nx2 @fne8w2ah Have you considered hosting a lightweight XMPP server and accessing Matrix through a bridge? https://aria-net.org/SitePages/Portal/Bridges.aspx

XMPP is the internet standard anyways, not sure why Matrix is necessary. Hopefully they become standard compliant soon. Venture capital startups reinventing internet standards in incompatible and inefficient ways is not helping.

Signal requiring phone number, thoughts on anonymity?

signal requires a phone number to sign up. a phone number could be used to trace your signal account back to you. so why do people, especially privacy enthusiasts and experts (like edward snowden), still use it and endorse it when it lacks anonymity in that sense? i get that people could use a voip number or something to sign...

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Almost all Matrix servers seem to require at least an email address. A better option would be XMPP, as most servers only require a username and a password to register. It's also the IETF internet standard and a lot less bloated than Matrix.

(Please see comments) Alternatives to Signal if they exit EU due to ending E2EE

Like the title states looking for E2EE apps (Android and iOS) without going into much details or needs to be robust enough and easy to use for anyone and stable for operations that are susceptible to constant electronic warfare. I did some research and thought about replacing Signal with Molly and wondering if it will still work...

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XMPP, the internet standard for federated instant messaging.

jabberati ,
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Since it's not federated like XMPP this is completely pointless when all the users are on their server.

jabberati ,
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I assume he has looked at least at some news this account has posted before sharing it. And I kind of can imagine how those news are worded.

jabberati ,
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Having been in a long distance relationship during COVID, with times where I couldn't meet my girlfriend for 12 and 18 months, I know just how the loneliness crushed me and how much happier I am now we're married and living together.

I accidently rebooted during pacman update and now my system dosen't show option to boot into endeavour os. Systemd just shows option to boot into firmware interface please help!

I’ve lost everything and I don’t know how to get it back. How can I repair my system all I have is a usb with slax linux. I am freaking out because I had a lot of projects on their that I hadn’t pushed to github as well as my configs and rice. Is there any way to repair my system? Can I get a shell from systemd?

jabberati ,
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Btw if you solved this, you should probably put your config files into git for backup: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Dotfiles

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@miss_brainfart @Blizzard It got better again! But I try to keep the apps from the Play Store at a minimum. If there is something similar available on F-Droid I get it from there.

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@miss_brainfart The only apps I get from the Play Store are banking apps and the default Google apps (Calendar, Contacts, Phone, SMS, ...).

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It's not really comparable. Duolingo is a nice game and all, but if you want to get serious about language learning (having a vocabulary > 10000 words) Anki + example sentences is the way to go.

jabberati ,
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@shortwavesurfer @MarcRnt Sadly, Signal is just another walled garden. We need to make XMPP apps more popular.

jabberati ,
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Why not the internet standard XMPP? I don't want startups reinventing existing standards in an incompatible form. We already have enough instant messaging fragmentation.

jabberati ,
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@shortwavesurfer What do you mean by 'you have to roll your own encryption'? The switcher for encryption looks like this, the default is set to OMEMO which is the XMPP implementation of the Signal encryption protocol.

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@ArbiterXero Exactly, if you use any other provider other than the normal Signal server, you're separate from the rest. You have no other choice to agree on all policy decisions (e.g. requirement for a phone number on registration) or loose all your contacts there. This is separate concern from privacy, but to protect against enshittification and the like, interoperability and compliance with internet standards is absolutely crucial. Let's not promote the usage walled garden apps.

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@shortwavesurfer In my experience normal users never touch the defaults. My friends all use OMEMO when messaging me, especially since the OpenPGP option would require you to generate a public and private key yada yada...

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Bridges break E2EE, so Matrix is not really an option here.

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@slacktoid Yes, if every user self-hosts all the bridges they want, and possible also control physical access to the server the bridges run on, the broken E2EE could be contained. But if you use a service like Beeper you loose E2EE, since they could read all your messages.

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@sylphio It's probably not going to get adopted, at least that's the feeling I got reading the emails on the mailing list and the comments from the Matrix main dev about MIMI. I don't feel like anyone at the IETF is very excited about the matrix protocol except the devs themselves...

Signal is Flawed, Why XMPP is Amazing! (new animated video) ( monero.town )

Some will curse me out for discussing decentralization and freedom. I am NOT saying the average person should be concerned with CIA spying. What I’m saying is that one should promote decentralized internet infrastructures that empower the individual over corrupt institutions, even though this threat model likely does not apply...

jabberati ,
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@mojo @SummerBreeze Conversations is gratis on F-Droid. Standards compliance and interoperability is a lot more important than slightly more rounded message boxes in a walled-garden app, that doesn't give you the freedom to run our own server or choose your own providers.

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@Melpomene @SummerBreeze XMPP apps implement the same E2EE algorithm as Signal, but unlike Signal you also have the freedom to choose your provider.

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@Secret300 @SummerBreeze XMPP is the current IETF internet standard for instant messaging. Matrix is a startup with VC funding trying to achieve the same goals as the XMPP protocol, but it's not an internet standard and the underlying ideas of the protocol blow up pretty badly: https://telegra.ph/why-not-matrix-08-07

It also makes Matrix a very heavy protocol, typically requiring 1-2 orders of magnitude more server resources than XMPP.

They have a lot of money for shiny Electron clients and marketing though.

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@Melpomene @SummerBreeze Yes, and to talk to you I also would have to sign up with that particular provider since it is not interoperable with any other IM providers. This takes away the freedom to choose a provider, from anyone who wants to talk to you (in a secure way). That's why I made internet standard (XMPP) compliance is a hard requirement for any IM provider I use.

Btw I don't agree with the points in this video. But I think it's best if people delete apps like Signal for above reasons.

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@Melpomene @SummerBreeze There is an XMPP app which provides this sign up experience too: https://quicksy.im . The other apps aren't really as complicated as you make them to be. Download app, choose a chat address, use partners address to chat. Also you can recommend your friends the app you are using yourself instead of just throwing them a list.
It pulled in a lot of people this way, people aren't as stupid as you think. XMPP is exactly as difficult to use as email.

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@Melpomene @SummerBreeze

It supports video calling and E2EE is enabled by default.

Maybe you will realize the need for vendor independent standards when Signal one day stops existing or fucks up and it becomes untrustworthy in your eyes. Walled gardens like Signal are can never be a good option. Why did you come to the Fediverse instead of using Reddit?

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@Melpomene @SummerBreeze I also don't care about the conspiracy theories, but using a single-vendor solution with no interoperability like Signal is just stupid, sorry.

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@ninchuka What's the difference between OMEMO and the Signal protocol?

jabberati ,
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> Do any wasps make honey?

> No. Adult wasps drink nectar from flowers but don't turn it into honey. They feed their young by laying eggs inside prey.

https://www.sciencefocus.com/nature/do-any-wasps-make-honey

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@w00t How about you join an instance where the admins agree with this?

jabberati ,
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@w00t Sounds like the fediverse is working out for you then :)

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@mexicancartel @MargotRobbie why not xmpp? I don't need startups reinventing existing internet standards.

jabberati ,
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@mexicancartel Conversations from F-Droid.

jabberati ,
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@mexicancartel It does what it is supposed to do and it does it well. If you care more about rounded corners than about standards compliance and interoperability, then it might not be for you. But the author is working on an visual upgrade for people like you also.

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@whou Don't forget the time they made it possible to 'donate' to creators, but when creators weren't signed up with their program would just keep the donation. So users would think they have donated for example to Tom Scott, but in reality he never received anything. Overall just a scummy company.

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@ninjan @mod_pp Globally offline? In the US and maybe in some countries that don't have a stable currency on their own. Anywhere else you can't use it.

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@ninjan So you first have to exchange it for real currency in order to use it?

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@goa_mpu Making content just to have content makes very boring content. Also talking about how many users are on Lemmy and how it is not Reddit.

YSK: Signal is a great secure private messenger app comparable to others on the market. ( restoreprivacy.com )

“When you use Signal, your data is stored in encrypted form on your devices. The only information that is stored on the Signal servers for each account is the phone number you registered with, the date and time you joined the service, and the date you last logged on.”...

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@Cevilia @TendieMaster69 XMPP > Matrix. Proper IETF internet standard, less bloat and not dependent on venture capital funding.

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