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moved to username e-five on the same instance

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  • e569668 , (edited )
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    this might be https://github.com/MbinOrg/mbin/issues/35

    it was fixed in the docs but requires manual change by instance owners that were affected, which this instance appears to be. tl;dr the docs recommended the nginx config add_header Referrer-Policy "no-referrer" always; which broke the style of redirects that were being used, it's now been changed to recommend add_header Referrer-Policy "same-origin" always;

    more info here

    edit: I promise I can read... Your description is slightly different, so it might not be this, but still worth trying it out to see if it helps

    e569668 ,
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    That is very weird, their /instances page says kbin still... I wonder if they stopped federating / it got marked as an inactive instance by mistake? lemmy.world for instance shows fedia as mbin... I'm not quite sure what this means but they clearly haven't gotten node info in a while

    e569668 , (edited )
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    It looks like their instance is having some issues https://programming.dev/post/4308156 granted that says outbound but I just joined their matrix and there are other issues being discussed as well, I might wait on this to see if it's still happening once things get more sorted

    edit: i posted in their matrix support channel to see if they noticed anything odd as well 🤞

    e569668 ,
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    Minor problem: there's a new feature of 2fa, but at least for me, going to https://fedia.io/settings/2fa to set it up shows a broken qr code. looks like it's returning an nginx 404 at the moment

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  • e569668 ,
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    Both servers are larger than the single server that infosec.pub runs on, yet infosec.pub has about 10x the traffic, and kbin is struggling under the load.

    I wonder what the difference is. One thing I have always wondered is if the double comment / post issue is causing tons of double traffic, not to mention double storage / bandwidth / network costs. I really wish there was an easy solution but I haven't been able to find any answers. The random thing I thought was like, it looks like everything federates with both fedia.io and www.fedia.io, so I was like maybe everything is double sending on its side? (E.G. if you look at lemmy.world or lemm.ee etc they all list fedia twice.) But people didn't seem that was likely to be the cause, as hopefully everything is deduped by signing keys rather than hostnames. I don't know enough to investigate further myself.

    e569668 ,
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    I don't know of every instance of course, but from the general purpose ones the order of up-to-date from most to least at the time of posting would be something like: kbin.run, fedia.io, kbin.cafe, artemis.camp (specific API branch), kbin.social.

    But there's also other considerations. fedia has a double post/comment issue and a low amount of 500s. Artemis has been giving me a lot of 500s, can't upvote anymore (just reloads the page), commenting doesn't always federate. Many instance admins seem to have disappeared since 3 months ago. I'm not sure what life is like on instances I'm not actively using so there might be issues unknown to me.

    Edit: the keys that I look for are localization / ui changes. "more" dropdown now has "more from domain" on updated instances. The UI for the sidebar is different, and most recently the footer is differently styled. There's also the federation list of instances page in the footer now.

    e569668 ,
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    does the fediverse actually support the kind of block that's being asked for here?

    Yea, that's where I'm thinking the hangup on this might be. A block could be implemented, but it'd come with the caveat of that all it's doing is giving you the idea they aren't continuing to engage with you on your instance. On their instance, and any instance that federates with them, they and others will continue to see the replies.

    Personally, I would like to see block renamed to mute to be more accurate and a block from replying added with the note about the drawbacks of them being able to tell you blocked them and their posts still going out everywhere else. That at least empowers the user to make the decision themselves on what they're most ok with. My reasoning is: changing the UI for, let's say an aggressor, gives them a reason to retaliate. To me, either blocking method is a lose-lose; either it doesn't stop engagement which some users clearly want it to, or it makes it obvious someone is being blocked which start aggressors down the retaliation path. That's kind of why I'd want users to make their own risk assessment on actions.

    Anyways, that's all very unlikely to happen. Most of all I'd like the bug about notifications fixed because that is clearly not working as intended.

    e569668 ,
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    Yeah, Mastodon has separate block and mute functions.

    Ah, good to know. I'll have to look into it a bit more, but reading https://docs.joinmastodon.org/user/moderating/#block

    If you and the blocked user are on the same server, the blocked user will not be able to view your posts on your profile while logged in.

    It looks like the limitation that Pamasich and I sort of expected is there. Blocks are basically only possible at your own instance. If the user is on another instance, there's no way to stop them in the fediverse. And that includes it going out to all other instances they federate with too.

    I sort of just experienced how this would work if implemented, in a way. A kbin social user posted to a beehaw org magazine. I replied to it, but my post does not seem to have made it to kbin social. However, it's on my instance, beehaw's, lemmy one, etc, because my instance federates with all of those instances. That's sort of what blocking would be like if the original page refused an incoming comment due to a block, all other instances would still accept it. It's possible there's something I'm missing as I'm not super knowledgable on activity pub or the fediverse, so I'll try to learn more about it

    e569668 ,
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    The good news is this was fixed in latest https://codeberg.org/Kbin/kbin-core/issues/1019 the bad news is it hasn't made it to kbin.social yet so hopefully whenever this instance is updated it will be fixed

    e569668 ,
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    I posted in https://kbin.social/m/kbinMeta/t/509976 as well but just to make sure you see it, ernest was pinged so hopefully this will be fixed when he sees it

    media.kbin.social has an expired certificate (kbin.social)

    Not sure where to report this exactly but media.kbin.social has an expired Let's Encrypt certificate (expired Tue, 03 Oct 2023 14:47:25 GMT) and this is causing problems loading various images across the site -- e.g. user avatars (sometimes), images copied from various Lemmy instances, and image threads made on kbin....

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    e569668 ,
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    Peeps pinged ernest in matrix so hopefully he can take care of this when he gets the chance. Thanks (to squiblet as well) for bringing it up!

    CarlsIII , to updates

    Is auto media preview not working for anyone else? It hasn’t been working for me for weeks.

    e569668 ,
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    @CarlsIII It's looking to work for me at least opening up kbin.social in a private window and enabling it. Make sure you're enabling the setting under the "Threads" header and not just the "Microblog" one, assuming you mean for threads

    harmonea , to updates
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    My account seems broken? :\ For the last month+ I can't get any thread I create to show up in its magazine, even when the magazine is a local one. Comments are fine, microblog posts are fine, threads show up in my profile but never the magazine.

    Admittedly I don't try very often, but that makes it all the more disheartening when I feel like "yay, I finally have something worth sharing" and, well, no apparently I don't.

    e569668 ,
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    @harmonea threads like this one https://kbin.social/m/Otomegames/t/480285/I-played-Butterfly-s-Poison-Blood-Chains ? Are you unable to see it, or a different one?

    e569668 ,
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    @harmonea you may be blocking a domain, which causes a bug detailed here. tl;dr blocking any domain on kbin.social right now hides any non-link entries and comments on them. removing them all fixes it, it's fixed in latest which hopefully the main site gets soon

    e569668 ,
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    The short answer is no but the longer answer for what happens in each situation was detailed here: https://codeberg.org/Kbin/kbin-core/issues/1051

    lemmy -> kbin = pretends to send but doesn't

    e569668 ,
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    One thing I'm trying to keep an eye on is sup. Not much information at all besides a snippet of 1 to 1 encrypted messaging for activitypub, but the tidbit of working with any fediverse account is interesting. Potentially that could help deal with the different fediverse implementations of messaging. Of course, like I said, this is just me making up assumptions, it could not work the way I envision it at all. The creator just posted something 5d ago about it with "soon" though, so I'm hoping to read more about it

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    I don't want to give false information, but on fedia the majority of 500 pages seemed to stem from the image media cache causing issues (our instance admin detailed the issue here). People were able to mitigate it by disabling images everywhere they could, but one place they can't be disabled is the user avatars on the notification page. I could be wrong, but it's my belief it's those images causing the 500s, and that pushed me to add https://codeberg.org/Kbin/kbin-core/issues/1039 in hopes that if it was possible to disable them the 500s would stop. All this could be wrong though, maybe it's something else like deleted messages or anything else, or maybe there's a better way to solve issues with cached images

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    I'm able to see that post, do you see it in private browsing / when logged out? If so, you might be blocking domains on kbin.social and removing them would make it appear again. That's been fixed in latest which hopefully kbin.social users should get soon, but wasn't affecting other instances I had checked so you should be fine to do so on artemis

    Admin of my instance seems to have gone inactive, looking to migrate to a small instance with an active admin (kbin.cafe)

    I’d like to help out with decentralization, with users not all gathering in one place, so I don’t want to go to kbin.social or fedia.io. I did look at fedidb.org and the list of instances there, but it doesn’t tell me if the admin is active. I could just visit every instance listed there and check the admin’s profile for...

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    e569668 ,
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    he’s eventually going to make sure abandoned instances have admins

    I think he meant magazines on kbin.social in this context. I don't think he has any way to control another instance and change who runs it, besides a kindly worded letter.

    I do try to keep track of kbin instances and how up to date they are and their admins, but I can't really advertise in their place. One thing I've kind of been thinking about is it'd be nice if nodeinfo had information next to current user count of like: desired user count, max user count. Otherwise you have no idea what an instance admin is hoping for, whether it's just their personal instance or they're willing to support tens of thousands of users. Without that I don't want to send people to x instance and suddenly the admin being in for a surprise. But I just looked up nodeinfo and it looks like there's plenty of worms in that can about it being too complex already, so maybe I'll avoid opening my mouth about it... for now.

    e569668 ,
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    It looks like all the spam I've seen are from newly registered accounts. Perhaps this is something you've already considered, but would shutting off registration on kbin.social and pointing people to other instances until things are more manageable help?

    e569668 ,
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    You filed the issue on it! xD

    I remember this happening before so it might be the same thing, auto media preview basically: https://kbin.social/m/kbinMeta/t/77143

    https://codeberg.org/Kbin/kbin-core/issues/446

    e569668 ,
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    In the last week a bunch of the API PRs have been merged into the mainline branch. There's still a few to go (and I imagine a lot of testing / refactoring after), but at least seems promising that the work is still in progress

    e569668 ,
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    I'm not sure if this is a good suggestion, are you able to delete it via moderation as you're the magazine owner? Someone mentioned having issues deleting their own posts but still could via moderation recently, but I'm not actually sure what that difference means as I haven't moderated any magazines myself.

    Is there a way to have a feed of people you follow in kbin? (kbin.social)

    I know you can follow kbin users from Masto and co and see their threads and boosts and I think that's pretty cool, but what does it do on kbin? I followed two accounts to test and it looks like the threads they create will show up in my subscribed feed. But what about their microblog posts and boosts? It seems like there is no...

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    e569668 ,
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    You should be able to see microblog posts of accounts you follow at https://kbin.social/sub/microblog

    e569668 ,
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    Interesting, I've heard people say the same before. I do always sort by newest myself, but I sub to a bunch of magazines and also, say, three mastodon accounts, and that page is basically just solely the mastodon posts, very rarely do I see microblog posts in lemmy/kbin. I guess a filter of magazines vs users would be useful

    Edit: Also, is the default view all time for you? I could see that causing a problem as well if it's hot / all time. I mainly have three bookmarks: /hot/12h, /sub/newest/24h, /sub/microblog/newest/1d. Getting all results for all of time by default seemed a bit weird to me, especially for microblog posts

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    Definitely, you're right that new timeframe doesn't matter, I meant to type hot all time xD I would expect that to potentially grab like whatever was boosted most in the past but then again the algorithm does tend to show newer things even under hot.

    Yea the tag system might need a bit of work. It works great for some magazines, but for others not so much. For example m/help is supposed to be a magazine for kbin help but it pulls in everything under which can be anything in the fediverse. I did see someone suggest a way for a magazine to remove it defaulting to using the tag of its name, which doesn't seem like a bad idea to me

    e569668 ,
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    In hindsight I remember why I filter newest to a timespan, so wanted to make note of it. Right now:
    https://fedia.io/m/kbinMeta@kbin.social/microblog/newest 500s for me but
    https://fedia.io/m/kbinMeta@kbin.social/microblog/newest/1w is able to load. so cutting off some of the older posts helps me run into less 500 issues, and I generally don't care too much about old posts unless I'm searching for something. that might be a fedia specific thing though, not sure how 500s are on other instances

    e569668 ,
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    I do rarely see it on other kbins. Honestly kind of surprising considering kbin has no API. Not that it's super difficult to do some headless browser automation but it sort of seems like whoeever is doing it must be super dedicated to targeting kbin.

    Do you mostly see it on m/random or other magazines? I've seen it elsewhere but it mostly seems to be from there. I kind of don't quite see the point in allowing threads / microblogs to be made from a local kbin instance to m/random. Threads especially, at least. I sort of am thinking it might be nice if m/random was locked from local posting so you had to file it under a magazine with moderators, but spam bots would likely just make their own magazines or spam others and that wouldn't really solve the problem.

    e569668 ,
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    I believe you should be able to run it all locally without a hostname. The guides for doing so are here, depending on how you want to:
    https://codeberg.org/Kbin/kbin-core/wiki/Admin-Bare-Metal-Guide
    https://codeberg.org/Kbin/kbin-core/wiki/Admin-Docker-Guide

    Someone just went through this themselves in the matrix kbin development channel so you could also potentially find help there if you're having issues. One thing that came up during that is https://codeberg.org/Kbin/kbin-core/pulls/132 has a bunch of changes to those docs which might make it easier

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  • e569668 ,
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    One thing to keep in mind is they don't federate with kbin.social; so they can't see your posts or replies, and can't reply to you. I believe your upvotes won't federate (maybe to other instances, but not to theirs at least). Downvotes work the same as they do for any other post as those don't federate in kbin to begin with. One-sided federation in the fediverse seems like it can be a bit confusing to users, I'm not sure in what case it's a good idea in since it can be like talking to a void.

    e569668 ,
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    I certainly wasn't trying to counter your post in any way or anything (especially as a non-kbin.social user), just provide information for people who might not be aware. kbin.social users basically have to see all of their posts with no way to interact or exchange with the other party, giving them little options. And for people who are unaware of this, they might be replying to their users in hopes of discussion or debate that will never happen

    e569668 ,
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    The issue is here https://codeberg.org/Kbin/kbin-core/issues/1019. It was fixed with a PR but I don't believe that PR has made it to kbin.social yet

    e569668 ,
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    That page should be https://kbin.social/sub/microblog but I see cacheson also says they have issues with it. I only see people I follow there, but I guess it does show posts from magazines I subscribe to as well, it just must be rare for the magazines I sub to to get (microblog) posts rather than threads. Perhaps for people that subscribe to magazines with common hashtags it might be worse.

    e569668 ,
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    Just to follow up on this KES has a magazine https://kbin.social/m/enhancement with install instructions. If you're able to use addons with how you browse kbin, you can rearrange it using this under Threads -> Rearrange post order. The suggested order has the reply box at the top

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  • HarkMahlberg , to updates
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    So funny thing about . I post a photo thread. I go to my profile and see the thread. I click on the image preview icon. I immediately get sent to https://kbin.social/u/undefined. Not only is Mr. Undefined a real user, hello @undefined, but somehow my image now directs to his profile.

    As I dig into Firefox dev tools to find out why, I see that uBlock Origin has blocked the request for my image. But that's odd, I have no specific blocking rules for kbin, and kbin.social doesn't run ads. What's up?

    So it turns out my image got uploaded to the following URL: https://media.kbin.social/media/ad/b2/adb203028331eada7f99f2b4547cbc0a7efc0ba4e203a71d9d193c02d38aa4f1.jpg

    .../media/ad/... That's what uBlock was upset about. So by blocking that request, the target of the AJAX fetch is... undefined. Hence my trip to a random user's profile. XD

    e569668 ,
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    @HarkMahlberg I would consider adding a bug for this to the issue tracker as it seems like a gotcha https://codeberg.org/Kbin/kbin-core/issues

    e569668 ,
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    @HarkMahlberg I assumed it was a default ublock rule and not one you added so I imagine a lot of people might run into this. Well, "a lot" depending on how often a filename's sha256 hash starts with ad. At the very least it's probably good to know about it, even if nothing is changed. But perhaps there's enough reason to use a different system to name image caches like the name generators a lot of image hosters seem to use. I guess it's in the devs hands now :) thanks for sharing it

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    @Teppic
    @HarkMahlberg

    I don't disagree that could be tried, but I just doubt they would change that rule just for kbin, compared to kbin changing it from /media/<sha256> to anything else like /media/hash/<sha256> and avoiding the problem. I have to imagine most users of the fediverse use ublock and use the default lists

    Avatar replaced with text 1 character wide & many rows when avatar is disabled. (fedia.io)

    This is what it looks like when avatar is disabled in the #kbin profile and images are disabled in the browser. The avatar is converted into the text address of the author -- which is a great idea. But then the HTML apparently uses a table or something and makes the left column as small as possible for the object. This means 1...

    what it looks like when avatar is disabled in the kbin profile and images are disabled in the browser.
    e569668 ,
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    As an update, this should be fixed now https://github.com/MbinOrg/mbin/pull/81 and looks to have been rolled out to this instance. The issue can still happen on user covers and magazine inline icons, which I hope to have a PR for soon(tm). realized it happens basically anywhere images with alt text appear so going to take more time auditing everything

    Question about reliability of kbin federation (kbin.social)

    I dunno if you've noticed but federation between kbin and lemmy is shaky at best. By doing even a quick comparison between some original instances and their kbin pages, it is easy to see that comments and sometimes entire threads do not get synced and are practically invisible to the other side....

    /kbin logotype
    e569668 ,
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    Check out https://codeberg.org/Kbin/kbin-core/issues/1019#issuecomment-1064117 and https://kbin.social/m/kbinMeta/t/361909/-/comment/1870631 as well.

    I think when people get an error posting to kbin.social a text or photo post it doesn't federate until, as floppy / stopthatgirl7 mentioned, it is interacted with.

    Edit: After reading your replies closer I see you were already aware, my bad for repeating information. There is a PR pending for the blocked domains so hopefully that is resolves soon

    kbin.social has been unusably slow lately? (kbin.social)

    The front page seems to work alright most of the time but when I try to load any thread it either loads so slowly(sometimes like 30+ seconds) that I end up closing the page or I get hit with a Error 50x page that has been saying "Over the next few days, there will be a change in server infrastructure." for a long time....

    /kbin logotype
    e569668 ,
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    unblock all domains

    You might not be able to see this comment but hopefully can see the first few words in the notifications page ^^ There is a bug right now https://codeberg.org/Kbin/kbin-core/issues/1019

    Expanding images on the front page also tends to be slow.

    There are definitely issues and I don't want to deny that, but just wanted to mention on this point specifically expanding images isn't cached like thumbnails are, so them loading should be completely dependent on the instance they were posted to responding. Taking a random example on the front page right now the thumbnail is kbin but clicking expand on it, the image that attempts to load is lemmy.world

    e569668 ,
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    I don't think there is a way to do this now, and I don't see an issue for it in the tracker (might have missed it), but I agree it would be nice to have more visibility options outside of just subs and followed

    e569668 ,
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    Thanks for the update, appreciate the info and helping get awareness / visibility on this out there. Based on what you and other people are saying I think the issues, errors on posts and empty domains, might be separate, so I've just been focusing on the empty domains / block filter issue for now. Luckily ernest and multiple devs are aware of the issue and have been posting about it so I think now we just have to wait and see, hopefully it's something not too difficult to fix

    e569668 ,
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    I'm not exactly sure where the best place to put this information is. ernest seems quite a bit swamped with the ever growing list of todo tasks, I'm not sure if it would be better reported in the codeberg issue tracker or their matrix server. But I have no power, I'm not even a contributor, I'm nobody! So unfortunately I can't really help you out here

    Comments not showing when logged in (kbin.social)

    Ok, this is a weird problem I’ve had happened twice now. I make a post (one was to a kbin magazine, one to a lemmy community), and I’ll get notifications that there are comments. But when I go to the post to look at them, it will say “5 comments” but show none of them and say there are no comments. But, if I log out, I...

    /kbin logotype
    e569668 ,
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    Believe you're correct. I think cooperaj mentioned it in the issue but they experienced the same thing, when you get the error it does not appear to federate.

    It being interacted with, such a upvoting or boosting might make it federate after that. (I think this might actually be linked to https://codeberg.org/Kbin/kbin-core/issues/875 but am holding off without more proof.) Of course, it being interacted with to get it to federate is difficult on kbin.social where anyone who blocks any domains won't even see it in the first place :(

    e569668 ,
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    I don't think you have to do anything that extreme, that is, you could just upvote your own post (and if you don't want to do that, un-upvote it as well, haha). Although... I just clicked the link and lemmy.world appears to be down, at least when I tried, so maybe now isn't the best time to try to post something to them >.> (edit: actually worked right after that, guess it's just a bit spotty)

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