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Why is pornography (and sexualisation in general) so normalised?

It seems as though we are going backwards. We were doing so well in realising that all human beings are worthy individuals with emotional and intellectual depth, yet now so many of us don't seem to see any problem with society encouraging many to reduce themselves to sexual objects. How is this rationalised?...

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I dunno, in a lot of conversations amongst men it seems like women are simply thought of as sexual objects, with the rest largely forgotten. Does not seem very healthy to me.

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Of course, but the entire purpose of pornography is kind of to reduce people to sexual objects, isn't it?

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It feels like people only watch pornography in order to satisfy their sexual desires by viewing someone sexually from an external position, while people watch violent shows to feel the thrills of the person from an internal point of view.

Masimatutu OP ,
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I am quite young, so most of my knowledge of the social conditions of the past comes from literature, which is of course a pretty bad source. But it really seems like it is much more normalised nowadays for men to view women as sexual objects.

‘Front page of the internet’: how social media’s biggest user protest rocked Reddit ( www.theguardian.com )

‘Front page of the internet’: how social media’s biggest user protest rocked Reddit::A mass user protest six months ago over technical tweaks had big downstream effects, and now the ‘front page of the internet’ is changed for ever

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I’m subscribed to many communities (like multiple anime communities) and I barely to not see them). I quite miss the conversations on Lemmy.

I only subscribe to smaller communities and browse big communities from 'all' (although I rarely do). That way big communities don't drown out what I actually want to see.

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Because a lot of people here are also on the microblogging side of the Fediverse and a lot of people find Lemmy/kbin's presentation of conversations a lot more appealing.

Also a lot of people don't realize that we won't see Threads content at all because they don't quite understand how federation works.

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I know, I'm not saying it's not. Additionally, it is not even sure if they will ever be able to, because Lemmy uses the article format for posts while microblogging platforms use note.

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Yes, comments are notes. But look at the main post from Mastodon: you only see the title and a link to the original post. That is just a placeholder. I am doubtful whether Threads will even have such a placeholder at all given their "careful" approach to federation.

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As Flipboards Magazines do not easily map onto the structure that other fediverse platforms use. The closest analogue might be PeerTube’s Channels, which also don’t federate.

Has Laurens never heard of kbin?

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But I mean, Laurens Hof... And additionally, Mastodonians are not unfrequently exposed to Guppe groups, which work on the same mechanic.

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Fair enough, thanks for the response. I highly appreciate your work!

Masimatutu ,
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"i am an instance admin/mod on the fediverse. by signing this pact, i hereby agree to block any instances owned by meta should they pop up on the fediverse. project92 is a real and serious threat to the health and longevity of fedi and must be fought back against at every possible opportunity"

fedipact.online

Masimatutu , (edited )
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Oh lol they changed the interface. Just a day ago or so the colours were the opposite.

edit: proof

Masimatutu ,
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  • You can follow Threads accounts after clicking through a warning.

  • People who don't follow those same people won't see their posts.

  • You have to manually approve followers from Threads.

Basically, it puts Threads in quarantine, without cutting off all connections.

https://social.coop/@eloquence/111588877096843391

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  • green checkmark = blocked
  • pink heart = blocked, signed fedipact
  • yellow exclamation mark = limited
  • red cross = not blocked
Masimatutu ,
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"i am an instance admin/mod on the fediverse. by signing this pact, i hereby agree to block any instances owned by meta should they pop up on the fediverse. project92 is a real and serious threat to the health and longevity of fedi and must be fought back against at every possible opportunity"

fedipact.online

Masimatutu ,
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Tumblr's plans, too, are met quite warmly, just as federation should be. Corporate players are very unlikely to destroy Fedi due to its distributed nature, and are generally going to improve reach and strengthen the trend of federated social networks. It's just that people and admins simply don't want to have anything to do with the absolute shit show that is Meta.

Yet another approach on Threads (Jerry Bell) ( infosec.exchange )

I continue to be squeezed by both sides of the threads situation. I am operating on the premise that people who think I’m a terrible person and this is a terrible instance for allowing any interaction with threads have left and/or blocked, those remaining seem to want to either have nothing to do with threads at all and are...

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Personally I'd never join such an instance, but I think it's completely understandable for admins to do so since it makes moderation a lot more manageable.

Masimatutu OP , (edited )
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It's important to note that XMPP is used no less than it was before Google messed around with it (I for one use it). It's just that it was going to get mainstream when Google got into it, but then Google did Google things and killed the project, making it seem like Google killed the entirety of XMPP.

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I don't think so. ActivityPub only fetches content if someone follows you, which you would have to manualy approve.

Masimatutu ,
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Well I'd really like you to elaborate. What prevents individual instances from being a nice environment even if it can connect to a giant network? On Lemmy for instance there are several instances with very nice local feeds and also on several microblogging instances there are strong internal communities. Just because the rest of the Fediverse is there doesn't mean you have to see it all.

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That said, there is a lot that can be done on a lot of platforms to give communities more of their own touch. Right now, most Fediverse platforms are currently very invested into the idea of complete decentralisation and treat other instances just like their own.

Half-centralisation measures like allowing microblogs to be unlisted outside the home instance or being able to hide a community from other instances' All feeds, or even blocking outside users from posting in a community, would definitely be welcome. Point is the solution is not to keep the entire network small, but rather features encouraging interaction locally allowing for community building.

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Threads' size will unaviodably disrupt the Fediverse if they federate fully, regardless their intentions. I think the appropriate approach is making interaction opt-in, like social.coop does: https://social.coop/@eloquence/111588877096843391

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Look, I hate Meta as much as the next person, but they really don't have that much leverage over the Fediverse as people are making it seem. It is completely optional to follow their accounts so they have little direct control over people's feeds, not to mention that their active userbase is quite small. I'd say a better approach is simply restricting interaction by making it opt-in in all ways, just like social.coop.

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If you want to avoid the toxic crowd, I definitely recommend Beehaw.org. Their entire purpose is to build a community without the toxicity often seen on social media platforms. In fact, they have even defederated lemmy.world because they couldn't control said crowd.

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Yes, for now. There is discussion to make it opt-out, which Eugen advocates for. Also, if it remains opt-in, very few people there actually have any reason to opt in, which is quite fishy because that means they are trying to keep their silo. Either way we should treat them with caution.

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idk, the primary motivator is probably PR, but there is a chance that there's still a trace, a glimmer of empathy and excitement for innovation, hidden way down somewhere in that human.

Don't count on it, though.

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Fair point, but they also have to please the EU, which won't buy them creating a new protocol with two existing ones gaining major traction, of which one is w3c standard.

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