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CitizenWald

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Cultural historian of modern Europe, Hampshire College, Amherst MA
Allied faculty, UMass Public History

Revolutionary era, World Wars, Nazism, antisemitism.
Book history, German literature, material culture, historic preservation.

Co-editor, Routledge History of Antisemitism
http://tiny.cc/iv43vz

• Past posts
-Chair of Board, Massachusetts Center for the Book
-Treasurer, Society for the History of Authorship, Reading, & Publishing
-Chair, Amherst Historical Commission
-Amherst Select Board

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Loss of another major : Robert Chazan, pioneer of .

https://www.jta.org/2024/02/13/obituaries/robert-chazan-87-nyu-scholar-of-medieval-jewry-who-helped-build-field-of-jewish-studies

Ironically, I start teaching one of his books tomorrow.

His medieval chapter in our new Routledge History of was an overview of the findings of his 9 influential books

https://www.routledge.com/The-Routledge-History-of-Antisemitism/Weitzman-Williams-Wald/p/book/9781138369443

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Colleague @MagdaTeter conducted a major interview with pioneering historian Robert Chazan, who died yesterday:

Interview with Robert Chazan – AAJR

https://aajr.org/centennial-project/interview-with-robert-chazan/

Important insights into the evolution of a field whose most people do not know (how the world has changed in 65 years)

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3 February 1468: death of Johannes Gutenberg

This 2021 Google Doodle "celebrates...the anniversary of this day in 2000 when the Gutenberg Museum launched a retrospective exhibition in his honor."
https://doodles.google/doodle/celebrating-johannes-gutenberg/
I was delighted to be visit it during the SHARP (sharpweb.org) conference

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10 Mass. districts remove and restrict book access:

"Frequently challenged books mostly deal with gender, sexuality, & race....In some cases ...more general pushback or questions regarding “LGBTQ+ & diversity topics & perspectives,
"But the challenges didn’t all come from conservative voices. Some parents took issue with titles that contained outdated and racist content, such as Dr. Seuss books that are no longer being published due to racist imagery"

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2024/01/17/metro/books-banned-in-massachusetts/?s_campaign=bostonglobe:push:web

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@OeconomicusRatio @bookhistodons Mostly it's conservatives trying to ban books involving race, social justice, LGBTQ+ etc., but, yes, there are at least a few cases coming from the left. Here, some parents protested about racist depictions in Tintin, but the library refused to remove the book

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I have to say: the last thing I expected last night while taking a break and watching the detective series, "The Mallorca Files," was: a reference to 19th-century German literature ¯_(ツ)_/¯

https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/B086KYM2HJ/ref=atv_dp_season_select_s1

Max finishes explaining who Grillparzer was, and Miranda can only reply lamely, "I know other things"

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And (why not?): the first edition (1830) of Grillparzer's Ein treuer Diener seines Herrn (a loyal servant of his lord), a historical drama set in medieval Hungary

rare original paper wrapper has owner's stamp of Carl Gerold's Sohn, Vienna, a publisher with whom Grillparzer would have preferred to work

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Gerold%E2%80%99s_Sohn_Verlag_(Gerold_Verlag)#Der_%E2%80%9EFall_Grillparzer%E2%80%9C#Der_%E2%80%9EFall_Grillparzer%E2%80%9C)

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title page (dampstaining in upper right corner)

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    loss of another major

    Arno J. Mayer, Unorthodox Historian of Europe’s Crises, Dies at 97 A Jewish refugee from the , he argued that , & the were all part of a “second Thirty Years’ War.”- The New York Times

    I did not always agree with him but actually got to know him pretty well and was grateful for the support he showed me. He consistently tried to ask new questions & was eager to discuss and debate

    gifted:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/06/world/europe/arno-j-mayer-dead.html?unlocked_article_code=1.L00.qGzr.LjhFEJmwPzBw&smid=url-share

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    On the off-chance you have some extra cash burning a hole in your pocket, and you could use a tax-deductible donation, the Massachusetts Center for the Book @massbook --a public humanities affiliate of the Center for the Book in the Library of Congress--is about $700 short of reaching its mini-fundraising campaign goal tonight

    https://www.massbook.org/donate

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    Restless Books, Independent of literature, opens store in Amherst.

    Europe & the rest of the world are good at works from around the world. Only 3% of US books are translations. Ilan Stavans of Amherst College wanted to rectify this imbalance. His Restless Books, founded in New York around a decade ago, has brought out c. 150 books by 120 authors from 40 countries.

    https://www.gazettenet.com/New-kid-in-town-Restless-Books-a-publisher-of-international-writers-opens-store-in-Amherst-53054434?utm_source=DHGHeadlineAlerts&utm_medium=DailyNewsletter&utm_campaign=HeadlineAlerts&utm_source=ActiveCampaign&utm_medium=email&utm_content=Wake+up+with+the+Gazette%21&utm_campaign=GZ+Morning+Headlines

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    "a conversation to help teachers, at the K–12 & college levels, develop strategies to teach the conflict & many of the attendant sensitive historical topics it entails. It might seem that this history is a minefield worth avoiding, but thoughtful & engaged teachers have been teaching such difficult topics in a civil & empathetic way for decades"

    https://www.historians.org/news-and-advocacy/everything-has-a-history/history-behind-the-headlines @AHAHistorians

    a cornucopia of viewpoint diversity

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    ° Clear Intention of Ethnic Cleansing”: Israeli Holocaust Scholar Omer Bartov Warns of Genocide in Gaza “Clear Intention of Ethnic Cleansing”: Israeli Holocaust Scholar Omer Bartov Warns of Genocide in Gaza Part 2: “From the River to the Sea”: Omer Bartov on Contested Slogan & Why Two-State Solution Is Not Viable -~ Our Daily Digest brings Democracy Now! to your inbox each morning
    Ussama Makdisi & @UssamaMakdisi The @nytimes ran a piece about @SenSchumer's very personal speech in which the Senator appears to be both profoundly aware of aspects of U.S and European history, especially as they relate to the pernicious history of Western antisemitism, and yet also profoundly in denial about the history of colonial Zionism in Palestine from the Balfour Declaration of 1917 onwards that culminated in the Nakba of 1948. Yet again the actuality of Palestinian history and lived experience of decades under occupation and apartheid are made to be fundamentally irrelevant to making sense of current events. Leaving aside the Senator's own perspective and feelings to which he is perfectly entitled, what is disturbing is how @nytimes just casually puts this in its report "Mr. Schumer’s warning came as antisemitic hate crimes have skyrocketed and pro-Palestinian protests, some featuring antisemitic signs and slogans, have swelled across the country as the civilian death toll in Gaza has soared." So note how the association works: just keep linking pro-Palestinian solidarity work with antisemitism...casually, repeatedly, and then fixate on the "crisis" on campuses across the country but not the one being experienced by students of all faiths who are being doxxed, abused, and vilified because they dare stand for justice, equality, and freedom in Palestine. 2:27 PM - Nov 30, 2023 - 17.6K Views
    Institute for Palestine Studies Jerusalem Quarterly Issue 92 - Winter 2022 The Jerusalem Light Rail in Historical Perspective: Urban Transportation and Urban Citizenship between Ottomanism and Apartheid Michelle Campos Essays .

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    Thursday, 5 p.m. Eastern

    Hybrid seminar:

    Teaching the of the : A Roundtable

    Arthur F. Kinney Center for Interdisciplinary Renaissance Studies : UMass Amherst

    https://www.umass.edu/renaissance/event/bookhistpangallotodd2023

    featuring, among others, @ryancordell & @bookish

    (apologies if I have missed other participants who may be on Mastodon)

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    Because I've been busy, I am late in celebrating the birthday of the great Laurence Sterne, born 24 Nov. 1713 in Clonmel,

    Here, my copy of the posthumously published letters to the object of his literary-romantic devotion, Eliza Draper (2nd ed. 1775).

    Modern readers find in what the editor said he saw in Eliza: “a mind so congenial with his own, so enlightened, so refined, and so tender"

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    Today being , we can enjoy being treated to a host of historical commentaries & corrections

    Gifted for you from behind the paywall, this important piece from 2021

    Thanksgiving anniversary: Wampanoag Indians regret helping Pilgrims 400 years ago: Long marginalized and misrepresented in U.S. history, the Wampanoags are bracing for the 400th anniversary of the first Pilgrim Thanksgiving in 1621 Washington Post

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2021/11/04/thanksgiving-anniversary-wampanoag-indians-pilgrims/?utm_campaign=wp_veatvoraciously&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl_veatvoraciously

    (gifted from behind the paywall)

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    And, keeping it here in Massachusetts, from our friends at WBUR :

    Beyond turkey: How to start a conversation with children about Thanksgiving

    A children’s book author who often goes to to talk about gratitude has advice about how parents can reframe the story of Thanksgiving for their young children.

    We revisit a conversation Here & Now’s Deepa Fernandes had last year with Traci Sorell, author of “We are Grateful: Otsaliheliga."

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    again: my colleague Professor Emerita of Photography Sandra Matthews & Nolumbeka Project President David Brule recently published their Occupying Massachusetts: Layers of History on Indigenous Land a photobook of historical & contemporary structures to make us think about the land of the Commonwealth

    https://gftbooks.com/books_Matthews.html

    Video of their talk at Amherst Historical Society:
    https://youtu.be/lDuQHBzPqqM?si=lI4fxLADPhWw3mDA

    David will speak about King Philip's War https://amhersthistory.org/events/king-philips-war-a-local-perspective-by-david-brule/

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    Teaching about & the & epitomizes the goals @AHAHistorians set for students, e.g. learning to see people of the past as both like us & very different, the latter demanding an act of sensitive imagination

    https://www.historians.org/teaching-and-learning/tuning-the-history-discipline/2016-history-discipline-core

    The Plymouth Colony Archive Project
    http://www.histarch.illinois.edu/plymouth/

    2 pieces from the press:

    David Hall, Peace, Love and Puritanism

    https://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/24/opinion/24hall.html

    Maggie Philips The Original Puritans
    https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/community/articles/original-puritans-thanksgiving

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    8. Recognize the provisional nature of knowledge, the disciplinary preference for complexity, and the comfort with ambiguity that history requires. a. Welcome contradictory perspectives and data, which enable us to provide more accurate accounts and construct stronger arguments. b. Describe past events from multiple perspectives. c. Explain and justify multiple causes of complex events and phenomena using conflicting sources. d. Identify, summarize, appraise, and synthesize other scholars’ historical arguments. 4. Apply the range of skills it takes to decode the historical record because of its incomplete, complex, and contradictory nature. a. Consider a variety of historical sources for credibility, position, perspective, and relevance. b. Evaluate historical arguments, explaining how they were constructed and might be improved. c. Revise analyses and narratives when new evidence requires it.

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    V. interesting to compare obituaries of the great French historian Emmanuel Le Roy Ladurie. Both NY Times & Le Monde stress his popular success as a pioneer of the microhistory & "return to narrative" with Montaillou & Carnival in Romans. Yet NYT leaves out the fact that he & the Annales School were first known for serial collective history, quantitative methods (e.g. his Peasants of Languedoc https://eh.net/book_reviews/the-peasants-of-languedoc/)
    @Mareike2405 addresses this https://historians.social/deck/@Mareike2405@fedihum.org/111460434515549276

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    Enjoyed some , , and in today's outing in Portsmouth, NH (celebrating its 400th anniversary this year):

    first a quick stop at the 1817 Athenaeum (closed today, but sister-in-law is a member). Once there were many of these loca institutions devoted to and . Only 16 remain.

    https://portsmouthathenaeum.org/.

    Day ended with a late-afternoon drive along the seacoast at Rye.

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    the lobby of the Athenaeum with a wall of 18th- and early 19th-century portraits
    the opposite wall of the lobby, with a few more portraits, a late 19th-century ship's figurehead, 18th-century elk antlers above a fireplace, nautical paintings, a Georgian royal document on parchment
    breakers crashing against gray rocks

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    Disaster Control

    NYT video about the Palomares nuclear accident over Spain in 1966.

    A US h-bomber was refueling in mid-air over Southern Spain. Both exploded and four h-bombs fell onto a small Spanish beach town (2 into the Mediterranean). This film examines health consequences to the clean up crew.

    @histodons @nuclearhumanities

    video/mp4

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    @peterjriley2024 @bojacobs @histodons @nuclearhumanities

    Some of this--even though we were small children back then--have a deep memory of this incident

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    @peterjriley2024 @bojacobs @histodons @nuclearhumanities

    Some of us--even though we were small children back then--have a deep memory of this incident

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    Last month I was delighted to attend the @massbook Center for the Awards in the Boston State House Great Hall

    https://www.massbook.org/mass-book-awards

    Here my former Hampshire College colleague Uzma Aslam Khan accepts the prize for best work of fiction, The Miraculous True History of Nomi Ali

    https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-miraculous-true-history-of-nomi-ali-uzma-aslam-khan/17279478?ean=9781646051649

    She spoke eloquently of her long path to completion as she attempted to redress the erasure of colonial subjects in today's &

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    Uzma Aslan Khan in gray dress speaking at podiun: stairway with iron railing leading to wooden doors at rear, US and Massachsetts flags at either side

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    Outstanding talk today by @erik_kwakkel on the unique combination of intuition and rational analysis that allow the expert paleographer to identify the time and place when a was produced.

    https://www.umass.edu/renaissance/event/bookhistkwakkel2023

    Delighted that @CandaceRobbAuthor and @taoish were able to attend

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    IN ONE HOUR:

    5 p.m. Eastern (via Zoom)

    'The Hidden Voice of the Scribe' with Erik Kwakkel, University of British Columbia : Arthur F. Kinney Center for Interdisciplinary Renaissance Studies : UMass Amherst

    https://www.umass.edu/renaissance/event/bookhistkwakkel2023

    Five-College Seminar in the of the , hosted by the Arthur F. Kinney Center for Interdisciplinary Renaissance Studies, University of Massachusetts-Amherst

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    Thursday, 5 p.m. Eastern (via Zoom)

    'The Hidden Voice of the Medieval Scribe' with Erik Kwakkel, University of British Columbia : Arthur F. Kinney Center for Interdisciplinary Renaissance Studies : UMass Amherst

    https://www.umass.edu/renaissance/event/bookhistkwakkel2023

    Five-College Seminar in the of the , hosted by the Arthur F. Kinney Center for Interdisciplinary Renaissance Studies, University of Massachusetts-Amherst

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    Thursday, November 9, 2023, 5:00pm Eastern

    The Hidden Voice of the Medieval Scribe

    Erik Kwakkel
    University of British Columbia

    This talk will be held over Zoom.

    Five-College Seminar in the History of the hosted by Arthur F. Kinney Center for Interdisciplinary Renaissance Studies, University of -Amherst

    https://www.umass.edu/renaissance/event/bookhistkwakkel2023

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    Re: authentic & fake : the tragic war has predictably led to bad going viral:. European Jews are descendants of medieval converts---- thus have no & connection to the land of

    A myth, promoted by a combination of the cynical or stupid, sadly embraced by the naive & uninformed

    Sadly relevant, as I will give a virtual talk about this at Indiana Uni this week.

    Old 🧵

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    Resuming 🧵 & re: - war

    1of the most disturbing things re: the conversation is the denial of history, e.g. assertion that Jews mostly descended from medieval converts (conversion was real but limited)

    I've always been fascinated by the history of both the pagan & conversion

    Who knows that the Caspian Sea was called the Khazar Sea, or that the victory of the Khazars was as important as the Battle of Tours?

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    2 maps showing the Caspian Sea labeled as the Khazar Sea: Bonne, Imperii Romani Distracta. Pars Orientalis (Paris, 1780) Schnitzler, L'Empire de Charlemagne et celui des Arabes . . . au commencement du IXme siècle (Strasbourg, 1857)
    left: line drawing of Khazar finds--primarily amulets and the like--from a Russian book on Khazar archaeology right: small anthropomorphic Khazar amulet; bronze, dark green-brown patina center: small Khazar amulet of grinning or grimacing human head with teeth bared; bronze, green patina text:

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    As I've noted earlier (https://historians.social/@CitizenWald/110574070037911438), the hypothesis began as a legitimate attempt to explain eastern European history.

    However, right-wing extremists & racists, from the Christian Identity movement to McCarthyites, appropriated it in the early C20 & grafted it onto existing conspiratorial

    Here, one of my "favorite" examples, which shows you just how loopy this shit was. The book earned praise from major political & military figures

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    “The Marxian program of drastic controls, so repugnant to the free western mind, was no obstacle to the acceptance of Marxism by many Khazar Jews, for the Babylonian Talmud under which they lived taught them to accept authoritarian dictation on everything from their immorality to their trade practices. Since the Talmud contained more than 12,000 controls, the regimentation of Marxism was acceptable— provided the Khazar politician, like the Talmudic rabbi, exercised the power of the dictatorship.” —John Beaty, Iron Curtain Over America

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    As I've noted earlier (https://historians.social/@CitizenWald/110574070037911438), the hypothesis began as a legitimate attempt to explain eastern European history.

    However, right-wing extremists & racists, from the Christian Identity movement to McCarthyites, appropriated it in the early C20 & grafted it onto existing conspiratorial

    Here, one of my "favorite" examples, which shows you just how loopy this shit was. The book earned praise from major political & military figures

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    “The Marxian program of drastic controls, so repugnant to the free western mind, was no obstacle to the acceptance of Marxism by many Khazar Jews, for the Babylonian Talmud under which they lived taught them to accept authoritarian dictation on everything from their immorality to their trade practices. Since the Talmud contained more than 12,000 controls, the regimentation of Marxism was acceptable— provided the Khazar politician, like the Talmudic rabbi, exercised the power of the dictatorship.” —John Beaty, Iron Curtain Over America

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    So, how did the pick up the myth? They already had plenty of practical & legitimate reasons to oppose if they wanted to.

    Scholars generally agree, Arab in the strict sense (though there are of course anti-Judaic elements in the Quran and Hadith) was imported from the Christian West in C19. & now, we realize, played a crucial role:

    The 1948 Arab war against Israel: An aftershock of World War II?

    https://fathomjournal.org/the-1948-arab-war-against-israel-an-aftershock-of-world-war-ii/

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    The that fed of course affirmed the "Semitic" roots of Jews

    Thereby hangs a tale:

    As far as I can tell, the virus of the myth leaped from the US far right to the thanks to the obsessive activity of the wacko Jewish soap maker, apostate, & denier, Benjamin Freedman. Tragically, they thought he would help them spread their message in the US on the eve of Partition debate at the UN


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    Christians Duped By Unholiest Hoax in All History! "Big lie" technique pushing U. S. A. to the brink of World War III." Characteristic rambling screed by Freedman in the McCarthyite racist Common Sense, showing map with Khazaria circled

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    The that fed of course affirmed the "Semitic" roots of Jews

    Thereby hangs a tale:

    As far as I can tell, the virus of the myth leaped from the US far right to the thanks to the obsessive activity of the wacko Jewish soap maker, apostate, & denier, Benjamin Freedman. Tragically, they thought he would help them spread their message in the US on the eve of Partition debate at the UN


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    Christians Duped By Unholiest Hoax in All History! "Big lie" technique pushing U. S. A. to the brink of World War III." Characteristic rambling screed by Freedman in the McCarthyite racist Common Sense, showing map with Khazaria circled

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    The Arab--+ some other nonwestern--delegates to the UN deployed the argument against & the creation of , though no one took it seriously, & as the eloquent Arab spokesman Cecil Hourani later noted, "It was only on closer contact with him that I came to realize he was less motivated by a love for the Arabs than by an obsessive hatred of Russian & Polish Jews,” “an ancient prejudice which was in fact a form of racism.


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    The League basically abandoned use of the myth after 1948--tho cranks such as Saudi UN envoy & histrionic windbag Jamil Baroody periodically trotted it out.

    Its recurrence is therefore cause for deep concern: 1) a sign of dangerous regression to zero-sum game: denying opponent's identity does not induce him to compromise 2) technique is same: historical distortion disingenuously citing scholarship from the opponent's community. Cheap trick.


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    Here are some examples of the current weaponization of the Myth--from Indonesia -via GoogleTranslate

    Note the strategy: suggest dark secret repressed by sinister forces, cite seemingly respectable sources from the community of the enemy , if possible cite natural science

    The scholarly community resoundingly rejected both Koestler's amateur historical argument & Elhaik's genetic work

    https://forward.com/israel/209236/genetics-expert-insists-75-of-jews-share-roots-in/

    https://geneticliteracyproject.org/2014/09/23/are-modern-jews-converted-khazarian-pagans-more-evidence-of-middle-eastern-roots/#link


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    So, after all that historical-scientific background, we return to the present to find (random example) people in Indonesia (of all places) promoting this nonsense:

    Again, note the strategy

    ism

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    GELORA.CO - Academic scientific studies show that the majority of today's Jews who colonize Palestine are not descendants of the Israelites who once lived in Palestine. The majority of Jews today are of Khazar Jewish descent. Surprisingly, they claim, historically Palestine is their land. Their history and heritage are tied to Palestine. They are the original inhabitants of the land of Palestine. "Aside from them not being native residents there, they are nothing more than people just passing through," wrote Dr Muhsin Muhammad Shaleh in his book entitled "Ardhu Filistin wa Sya'buha" which Warsito, Lc translated as "The Land of Palestine and Its People" . Jews point out that this claim is based on the reign of David and Solomon as well as the existence of the state of 'Israel' and Judaism in Palestine and so on. They claim Palestine is related to their racial (national) affiliation and racial composition. So, can today's Jews prove that they are descendants of the Children of Israel who lived in Palestine before 2000 years ago? Academic scientific studies of a number of Jews themselves, including the study of the famous writer A. Koestler in his book "The Thirteenth Trible: The Khazar Empire and its Heritage", shows that the majority who determine today's Jews are not descendants of the Children of Israel who once lived. in Palestine.
    [Headline over people of diverse appearance apparently holding up Torah scroll covers in Jerusalem (is the implied point supposed to be that they cannot be genetically related? [if so, that displays an embarrassingly uninformed view of the science) Headline: DNA Test Reveals Israel's Current Jewish Inhabitants Are Not From Canaan
    Most of the Jews today, who are mobilizing for the establishment of the state of Israel in Palestine, apparently are not people from the former kingdoms of the Prophets David and Solomon in Judea and Samaria. Most of them turned out to be other people, from other races. In short, they were not the Jews we often read about in the scriptures. All of this is confirmed by historical facts and investigations carried out by historical researchers, including Ernest Renan, and even proven through the results of scientific research. Then, who are they? Let's check it out. .... Based on 2016 census data, Israel has a population of around 8.58 million people. As many as 6.45 million of them or 74.8 percent are Jews. Of these Jews, about half are Ashkenazi Jews. The rest are Sephardi Jews, Mizrahi Jews, and others. Meanwhile, the other residents are Arabs (Muslims, Christians and Druze) and others. Almost all of the founders of the current state of Israel were Jews who migrated from Europe, especially Russia, Eastern Europe, Central Europe and parts of Western Europe such as Germany. Almost all of them are Ashkenazi Jews, from Chaim Weizmann (Israel's first president), David Ben- Gurion (Israel's first prime minister), to Benjamin Netanyahu (current Israeli prime minister). Gal Gadot, a former female Israeli soldier, who is now popular for playing Wonder Woman in Hollywood films, is also Ashekenazi Jewish.

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    So, after all that historical-scientific background, we return to the present to find (random example) people in Indonesia (of all places) promoting this nonsense

    Again, note strategy:

    Bold assertion of sinister suppression of dark secret, buttressed by citation of supposedly authoritative sources that reader (at least here) is in no position to evaluate (& reader, trusting source, does not go on to scrutinize)

    And so the crap spreads.

    ism

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    GELORA.CO - Academic scientific studies show that the majority of today's Jews who colonize Palestine are not descendants of the Israelites who once lived in Palestine. The majority of Jews today are of Khazar Jewish descent. Surprisingly, they claim, historically Palestine is their land. Their history and heritage are tied to Palestine. They are the original inhabitants of the land of Palestine. "Aside from them not being native residents there, they are nothing more than people just passing through," wrote Dr Muhsin Muhammad Shaleh in his book entitled "Ardhu Filistin wa Sya'buha" which Warsito, Lc translated as "The Land of Palestine and Its People" . Jews point out that this claim is based on the reign of David and Solomon as well as the existence of the state of 'Israel' and Judaism in Palestine and so on. They claim Palestine is related to their racial (national) affiliation and racial composition. So, can today's Jews prove that they are descendants of the Children of Israel who lived in Palestine before 2000 years ago? Academic scientific studies of a number of Jews themselves, including the study of the famous writer A. Koestler in his book "The Thirteenth Trible: The Khazar Empire and its Heritage", shows that the majority who determine today's Jews are not descendants of the Children of Israel who once lived. in Palestine.
    [Headline over people of diverse appearance apparently holding up Torah scroll covers in Jerusalem (is the implied point supposed to be that they cannot be genetically related? [if so, that displays an embarrassingly uninformed view of the science) Headline: DNA Test Reveals Israel's Current Jewish Inhabitants Are Not From Canaan
    Most of the Jews today, who are mobilizing for the establishment of the state of Israel in Palestine, apparently are not people from the former kingdoms of the Prophets David and Solomon in Judea and Samaria. Most of them turned out to be other people, from other races. In short, they were not the Jews we often read about in the scriptures. All of this is confirmed by historical facts and investigations carried out by historical researchers, including Ernest Renan, and even proven through the results of scientific research. Then, who are they? Let's check it out. .... Based on 2016 census data, Israel has a population of around 8.58 million people. As many as 6.45 million of them or 74.8 percent are Jews. Of these Jews, about half are Ashkenazi Jews. The rest are Sephardi Jews, Mizrahi Jews, and others. Meanwhile, the other residents are Arabs (Muslims, Christians and Druze) and others. Almost all of the founders of the current state of Israel were Jews who migrated from Europe, especially Russia, Eastern Europe, Central Europe and parts of Western Europe such as Germany. Almost all of them are Ashkenazi Jews, from Chaim Weizmann (Israel's first president), David Ben- Gurion (Israel's first prime minister), to Benjamin Netanyahu (current Israeli prime minister). Gal Gadot, a former female Israeli soldier, who is now popular for playing Wonder Woman in Hollywood films, is also Ashekenazi Jewish.

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    One of the tragedies of the - conflict is that the leaders of the latter have engaged in historical denial--starting with denial there was a Jewish temple in Jerusalem (https://www.thedailybeast.com/temple-denial) and now repeated invocation of the myth by both the Palestinian president (whose PhD thesis was a work of denial https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/arts-letters/articles/mahmoud-abbas-soviet-dissertation) + the Prime Minister, who is just loopy.

    This idiocy makes peace-building impossible.

    @histodons 10/n

    Antizionist Pseudohistory Palestinian Prime Minister Shtayyeh, 2021 "The other key to the research is the Jews of today. Who are they? Without going into detail — they are the Khazar Jews, who converted to Judaism in the sixth century CE. This issue requires research. There are many sources and books about the Khazar Jews.

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    Good to be cautious about that source (I am a fan of Wikipedia: it's just that one needs to know how to evaluate it, esp. when controversial subjects provoke editing wars). Anyway, I spend way too much time reading about genetics, but that is a basically accurate characterization. A prominent interpretation is that, although both males and females came to Europe, male intermarriage with local females created the genetic profile. Main point here, tho, is Mideast ancestry

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    @drmikeh49 @Podophyllum @histodons

    Indeed. When I teach about this stuff I do note the irony of use of genetic research among minority populations. But as I explain: it is so important to Jews & African Americans because their histories were taken away: lives and written records destroyed, so genetics fills in these historical gaps.
    It is a historical-scientific research tool. Religion and identity will always remain personal and cultural. But one needs to have a brain in order to grasp this.

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    Things October 31 is besides : Day, celebrating the date in 1517 when Martin nailed his 95 theses to a church door in Wittenberg--or did he?
    Modern scholarship long tended to dismiss the episode as fictional, citing lack of contemporary evidence. 1/n

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    Things October 31 is besides : Day, celebrating the date in 1517 when Martin nailed his 95 theses to a church door in Wittenberg--or did he?

    n contrast to Oberman, Richard Marius, in Martin Luther: The Christian Between God & Death (1999), explains the nature of the historical controversy over the truth of the tradition that Luther posted the 95 Theses OTD 1517. 4/8

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    ...For many years it was supposed that someone copied the theses off the door, translated them from atin into German, and had them reprinted so that they flew over Germany and made Luther a hero overnight. Certainly the theses were quickly translated and circulated and Luther suddenly was propelled into fame. But in 1961 a German Catholic scholar, Erwin Iserloh, raised a question: Were the theses posted? In the current mood of Catholic ecumenicity, Iserloh was sympathetic to Luther. But he consid- red these facts. Nowhere in his table talk in later years did Luther speak of posting the Ninety-five Theses on the church door. In none of his own works reviewing the beginning of the controversy does he mention any public posting. He recalled that he preached to his people about grace and remission fo sins against the shallow proclamations of the indulgence sellers, and he seems to have discussed the matter in private with associates and to have sent copies of the theses to learned friends. But none of this resembles a public act of hammering the theses onto a church door and calling for a disputation. Iserloh holds that the story of the nailing of the theses to the church door comes from the pen of Philipp Melanchthon, who wrote a short summary of Luther’s life a few months after Luther died. Melanchthon (1497-1 560) was a professor of Greek, with a mind much more orderly (and commonplace) than Luther’s, and one of Luther’s closest colleagues. He was to become

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    Things October 31 is besides : Day, celebrating the date in 1517 when Martin nailed his 95 theses to a church door in Wittenberg--or did he?

    Then, in 2006, a new archival find of a contemporaneous reference seemed to lend credence to the story of the nailing of the 95 Theses to the church door OTD 1517--tho perhaps not by Luther himself (feature film 1953; docu 2008)

    https://www.ekd.de/Martin-Luther-Thesenanschlag-14255.htm

    http://www.lutherbase.de/aspects.html#WittenbergSchlosskirche/FilmclipLegendeThesenanschlag

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    scene from 2008 documentary

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    Things October 31 is besides : Day, celebrating the date in 1517 when Martin nailed his 95 theses to a church door in Wittenberg--or did he?

    Since then, the pendulum on the nailing of the 95 theses to the church door OTD 1517 has swung back & forth.
    Here, a Tübingen theologian & church historian dismisses it as a legend reflecting the Protestant need for symbols of the faith (2016)
    https://n-tv.de/panorama/Luthers-Thesenanschlag-ist-eine-Legende-article18937366.html 6/n

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    Things October 31 is besides : Day, celebrating the date in 1517 when Martin nailed his 95 theses to a church door in Wittenberg--or did he?

    In 2018, 2 historians from the historical Luther sites set forth the case for the authenticity of the tradition that he nailed the 95 theses to the church door OTD 1517:

    Luthers Thesenanschlag laut Historikern mehr als bloss Legende https://ref.ch/news/luthers-thesenanschlag-laut-historikern-mehr-als-bloss-legende/ 7/n

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