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EatATaco , in They're Looting The Internet

I always thought that facebook got a bad rap. I mean, it was stupid, but I always enjoyed it because I could catch up with old friends, who might not be actively in my life at the time, and for that it was special.

However, sometime recently (as in years, I guess) as people have left or become more private, my feed has slowly been taken over by suggested content. It's always pushed front and center. Literally unavoidable because there is no setting to say "don't suggest anything to me." and no matter how often you hide shit, they'll just keep feeding more. I've all but completely abandoned using facebook now...I just go on to check my local buy nothing group, or post things myself. Occasionally I go to see what stupid shit my previous good friend, who got totally sucked into Trump world, is saying.

anachronist , in The corporate boot licking of Google after firing the palestine protestors in insane

Hacker news is full of people LARPing as corporate crisis management officers, or counsels for the defense. Every post you get about "company caught grinding up babies to fuel forever-chemical cancer machine" will get a ton of posts by people arguing that actually it's a net positive for the world and how could anyone be against such amazing innovation?

intrepid ,

They're neither crisis managers, nor counsels. The correct term is astroturfers. They all have some vested interests in doing so.

WalnutLum , in The corporate boot licking of Google after firing the palestine protestors in insane

There's a weird implicit conservancy in tech circles around the dictatorial nature of corporate leadership.

It stems from this weird externalization of corporate decision making that just turns everything that happens at large companies into the machinations of the unknowable machine of capital.

"Of course they were fired, they protested in a way that disrupted the business, if the business is disrupted the machine must correct itself, and it did so by releasing the corporate anti-bodies of leadership to fire the disruptive element. Thus the machine is corrected. This is all logically sound, and thus impervious to moral inquisition."

macabrett , in The corporate boot licking of Google after firing the palestine protestors in insane

I agree with you. People are gleeful and smug about the firing. I'm proud of the people who stood up against a contract that will only bring death and destruction to the world and I am ashamed of those that smugly revel in their firing.

GolfNovemberUniform , in Huawei’s new Kirin 9010 chip tested in real-life gaming, performs much better than expected with no overheating

Qualcomm rushes with performance too much and that causes overheating. Other manufacturers are a bit behind but at least the performance is stable

Diabolo96 ,

Not even a competitor, but a company that almost died a few years ago because it was locked from buying chips for its products.

GolfNovemberUniform , (edited )

Afaik (and I think my info is more trustworthy because I don't live in the China's enemy country) Huawei never died or nearly died. It always had its internal market which didn't get affected by the sanctions at all

Diabolo96 , (edited )

Yeah, I saw a documentary about Huawei being the biggest pig meat supplier in china among other things. I meant technologically speaking. Huawei was really big here so I followed what was happening to them after the US cut of their supply of ARM chips. Chinese chips weren't really the best at that time so even with the big internal market, they had to hibernate their technology sector until they started making good enough chips, and it paid off. Their tech is on par with the Snapdragon 8 gen 1 already. US sanctioning China, forcing it become a real competitors in the chip making industry ended being a Good thing for freedom of the market.

GolfNovemberUniform ,

Makes sense. Sanctioning powerful economies never ends well for the one that sanctioned. Though the US fully deserved it so nicely done, Huawei

gianni ,

Huawei's doing great. Plus, there's a big push in China to consider RISC-V & Linux to reduce dependence on US-based tech like Windows, so seems like all good things

istanbullu ,

Huawei didn't even come close to dying.

OfficerBribe , in Microsoft will now urge you to ditch local accounts on Windows 10

Pretty sure I have seen a prompt suggesting switching to MS account before and MS already hides local account creation during setup.

It's not like local accounts will disappear unless there will be an actual redesign of whole OS which is very unlikely since then you loose all the backwards compatibility.

Crackhappy , in The corporate boot licking of Google after firing the palestine protestors in insane
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Yeah, I don't understand a place in the world where I fit that allows that kind of shitty behavior. I have a direct line to the founder of the place I work at. He gives a shit and listens when I give voice to a problem.

phoenixz , in Microsoft will now urge you to ditch local accounts on Windows 10

Install Linux and be done with the shit from Microsoft already

ILikeBoobies ,

This means nothing to the average user because the difference doesn’t change their perceived experience

BabyYodel , in Microsoft will now urge you to ditch local accounts on Windows 10
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I’m sure they fucking will. Can’t harvest your data (as readily) if you aren’t online. Fuckers.

dandroid , in Microsoft will now urge you to ditch local accounts on Windows 10

I will now urge Microsoft to suck my balls.

dRLY , in Microsoft will now urge you to ditch local accounts on Windows 10
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Maybe next year will be the year of React OS?? lol

eee , in The corporate boot licking of Google after firing the palestine protestors in insane

first of all, you lost me when you pointed to reddit.

second, they protested not just within the office, but in the personal office of one of the higher-ups. If you blockaded your CTO's office as a means of protesting world hunger, I don't think that would go well for you either.

morrowind OP ,
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If my company was helping perpetuate world hunger and I blockaded their office, I hope to God you wouldn't be gleeful at me getting fired

huginn ,

Not gleeful - just fully understanding why.

I admire their principled stand. They had to know it would cost them their jobs but chose to do it anyway.

Their firing isn't a surprise and is fully reasonable by the company. I hope they get great jobs elsewhere, where their morals will be appreciated... But there are very few workplaces that give a damn about morals.

mihor ,

At least we all agree that google is a piece of shit company.

Umbrias ,

Lets be clear, there's a difference between "reasonable" and "expected behavior" and it's an important one.

huginn ,

It's both reasonable and expected.

We can discuss if a corporation deserves to exist but granted that it does: it is implicitly reasonable that it deserves to maintain its premises and staffing in a way that is conducive to business.

Now if you want to talk about corporate structures and the dissolution of capitalist enterprise that's a different story.

But in today's world and with today's rules it is entirely reasonable.

Umbrias ,

I'd argue corporations should strive to represent their employees. Corporations don't deserve to maintain anything, they aren't people and have no ethical status either.

Nonetheless you're working double time to make sure the use of 'reasonable' with all its connotations is seen as acceptable here. Making sure everyone knows that you think this is normative.

We will not reach a common ground.

huginn ,

I'd argue corporations should strive to represent their employees.

That's not a corporation that's a co-op. I think cooperatives are great. Corporations less so.

Corporations don't deserve to maintain anything, they aren't people and have no ethical status either.

Ethical status isn't what I'm talking about here: I'm talking about legal protections for entities. A corporation is an entity and has legal protections.

Again we can discuss if capitalism should be the system we use but as long as it is then corporations will, by definition, have legal status and protections.

Nonetheless you're working double time to make sure the use of 'reasonable' with all its connotations is seen as acceptable here. Making sure everyone knows that you think this is normative.

It's absolutely mundane and normal. It's unnatural but not strange.

I'd rather the system didn't work like this: but it is entirely expected given the laws that govern the nation in which this occurred.

And that's by definition normative.

We will not reach a common ground.

You went from talking about concepts to directly attacking me. I wouldn't expect you'd ever come to a truce with someone you see as an enemy. I'm sorry you feel that way.

eee ,

I hope to God you wouldn’t be gleeful at me getting fired

I wouldn't be "gleeful", but I can definitely see why the company was within their rights to fire you.

This is like those nutbags who shut down a highway to protest the environment or something, then accuse the police of being un-environmental when they're invariably arrested.

haui_lemmy ,
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Shutting down the highway when the planet is literally burning up seems like a very obvious sign of outrage and great restraint as to not get violent despite that outrage, dont you think?

Arresting protestors during a largely ignored crisis which they protest seems kind of inhumane, no?

Crackhappy ,
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I still have zero regrets after walking away from my very very old reddit account. I torched everything I ever said, ground it into ash, stomped on it again, and then deleted my account. I still have my /. account though.

ReversalHatchery ,

This is not at all like world hunger.

EnderMB ,

Those offices are usually locked down anyway, on floors where the unwashed masses aren't granted access. Hell, if you want to even be on a call with someone like the CTO you'll have to reach out to three different entities, book a specific room, and reach out to that person's team of assistants to ensure everything is aligned.

If they got access to the CTO office they definitely broke in, or evaded security in some way. That alone at any company will get you fired, and probably arrested.

Source: Once attended a meeting with a SVP at a big tech company. I genuinely think it would be easier to meet the president.

disguy_ovahea , (edited ) in The corporate boot licking of Google after firing the palestine protestors in insane

I completely support their right to protest, having attended many myself, as does the constitution. However, they were on the clock and on private property. They should have organized a protest outside, during off hours, if they wanted to protect their jobs. Circulating a petition wouldn’t have been a bad idea either.

Edit: OP shared this interview in a thread further down. It’s a first-hand account from a former employee. The employee stated that they were warned several times about pending arrest and violation of workplace behavior. I respect their commitment to their cause, but it was with full understanding that they were arrested and subsequently terminated.

Darkrai ,
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I disagree, I think protesting during working hours is kind of the point, same as a union protest during working hours. It affects the corps bottom line, the only thing they care about.

disguy_ovahea , (edited )

I agree that it hurts the company more. Unfortunately, then they can legally terminate you for refusal to work. Even worse, you won’t even be eligible for unemployment after hearing.

It would be legally protected if they were protesting compensation or working conditions, or if they organized their concerns through a union representative.

anachronist ,

Unfortunately, then they can legally terminate you for refusal to work.

I don't think they're being fired for "refusal to work". There is a concept of "job abandonment" but one 9 hour period wouldn't count. Typically you need several days of no contact/no show before you have considered to have abandoned your job.

This is more about at-will employment: Google has a right to fire an employee at any time for almost any reason, or for no reason. There have been people getting fired for posting pro-Palestine content to linkedin, which is completely legal in the US.

This isn't a story of "employees overstepped a line and got fired" this is a story of "there is no line, companies can fire employees for almost anything and definitely for their political views regardless how respectfully they are expressed."

Also going on strike is basically the definition of "organized refusal to work"

disguy_ovahea ,

Your last sentence is correct. A strike against workplace conditions or compensation is protected. This was neither. Refusal to work while on the clock is grounds for termination as well as disqualification for unemployment benefits. There needs to be acknowledgment by the employee that they are refusing to work, and that the result of continued action would be grounds for termination. It does not need to continue for nine hours, and is a different termination reason than job abandonment.

I’m 100% behind protesting, but you need to know how to keep the law on your side.

anachronist ,

These are almost certainly saleried, exempt employees with no "timeclock".

They were fired for expressing a political opinion and doing so in a way Google did not like.

It is certainly legal for Google to fire them for this because it is legal for Google to fire them for almost any reason. But it's also pretty certian that there is no way in America to protest your employer in a way where the law would protect you from retaliation.

disguy_ovahea , (edited )

By “on the clock” I mean during compensated scheduled working hours. It does not matter if you are an hourly or salaried employee. They were removed and charged with trespassing after multiple warnings from security, and warned in advance of the policy violation of the protest according to this employee interview.

You are protected by law if protesting working conditions or compensation during scheduled working hours. If you protesting anything else, it can be done during free time in a public space without employer retaliation.

I have been part of many protests, and am in complete support of them. The most important thing when organizing a protest is knowing your rights so you can keep the law on your side.

stewie3128 ,

Their company, their rules. A union protest is a work activity directly relating to their roles, relationships, and functions as employees, which a political protest is not.

Google can suffer the public consequences on their own, which may or may not affect their bottom line.

morrowind OP ,
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To be fair, if you read the interview with one of the workers, they tried many less disruptive approaches before turning to a sit in. I don't they risked their jobs without reason.

disguy_ovahea ,

I’ve read two articles, but neither of them had that interview. Got a link?

morrowind OP ,
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disguy_ovahea ,

Thanks. Interesting read. The employee stated that they were warned several times about pending arrest and violation of workplace behavior. I respect their commitment to their cause, but it was under full understanding that they were arrested and subsequently terminated.

helenslunch ,

they tried many less disruptive approaches before turning to a sit in

So they were intentionally disruptive to their employer and you're upset they were fired? You think people should be able to show up, clock in and then protest their employer on company time on company property and face no repercussions?

morrowind OP ,
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I'm upset about the people supporting google's right to make money over any ethics. I'm upset at the idea that employees should have no say in what the company they work for does. I'm upset at people who think this is a good thing.

The specific repercussions they faced is another matter. But no, I don't think they were fair. Quote

Yeah, this was retaliation, like completely indiscriminate—people who had just walked by just to say hello and maybe talk to us for a little bit. They were fired. People who aren't affiliated with No Tech For Apartheid at all, who just showed up and were interested in what was going on. And then security asked to see their badge and they were among the 28 fired.

They had to reach out after the fact to tell us, hey, I was impacted by this.

helenslunch ,

I'm upset about the people supporting google's right to make money over any ethics.

Well, don't be, because it's not happening.

I'm upset at the idea that employees should have no say in what the company they work for does.

Also not happening.

I'm upset at people who think this is a good thing.

Once again, not happening.

Triasha ,

Blanket? Not at all. In this specific case I wish Google faced the repercussions rlinstead of the employees.

Felipe , in Microsoft will now urge you to ditch local accounts on Windows 10

Hope that shit doesn't hit the LTSC version. I'd have switched my gaming rig to Linux years ago if it played nice with my simracing hardware.

CaptainProton ,

If fusion 360, solid works, OR solid Edge ran on Linux I'd deal with the annoyances.

Fenrisulfir ,

Yup. If my pimax crystal and all my sim hardware ran on Linux I’d switch immediately. I’m sure my Kodi/mpc-be/madvr could work. Not sure about Dolby Atmos. But some of the drivers for my sim hardware already seem slightly jank in windows and I’m not sure the already small teams they have are able to support windows and Linux builds

The gaming/home theatre is the only windows machine I own.

twig , in Microsoft will now urge you to ditch local accounts on Windows 10

I don't know if they're aware of this, but they're also urging users to ditch Microsoft as a matter of course.

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