artvabas ,

Get a live!

patchwork ,

I don’t like how any of these big tech companies try and force us to use their spyware vs letting people make an informed choice. I don’t agree with the technique, but the silver lining may be that we desperately need competition with browsers and the reality is that this is how US predatory capitalism works now. Companies take advantage of people because we have no proper regulation in the tech space. Maybe some people will switch to from Chrome to Edge (reskinned Chrome) Ranking for privacy on a 1-10 scale imho

Chrome 0 Edge 1 Firefox 5 Brave 6 LibreWolf 9

supercriticalcheese ,

It got installed edge on an android phone as well.

While Microsoft doesn’t normally control anything on android, my workplace requires a Microsoft intune to be installed to run the company email or teams on your phone. This effectively creates a workprofile with it’s own play store and a forced install of several applications such as edge

LunarLoony ,

That’s your workplace doing that, not Microsoft

Edgarallenpwn ,

Yeah seems like a request for a work provided phone would fix it. A guy I used to work with bought a burner flip phone when something like this was required and got the company to provide a work phone. After a month or two he would just openly use his normal phone and no one batted an eye.

NabeGewell , avatar

By your logic it was my school that wanted us to learn MS products, not Microsoft. Are you sure about that?

LunarLoony ,

Yes, otherwise they wouldn’t have bothered with Intune…

NabeGewell , avatar

I don’t get your point, what does Intune have to do with the topic?

LunarLoony ,

The original comment I replied to was talking about Intune, and having to use Company Portal on mobile devices. What are you on about?

NabeGewell , avatar

Right, back on track. I’m sure a company wouldn’t use, and require their employees use a program unless people in charge are already familiar with said product or there was a deal made for them. I don’t know where the guy works but I’m sure that’s a safe bet, my point is Microsoft is known to make deals with schools/uni to teach only their products instead of alternatives. It’s why their products are so used - why learn something new when what you’ve been taught does the job

PseudoSpock ,

Demand they provide a work phone. Never put Microsoft’s stuff for work on your personal devices!!!

supercriticalcheese ,

I would never do that to my personal phone, I installed that in a old phone that I had laying around.

PseudoSpock ,

That works, too. Glad to see people not trusting work apps on their private daily devices.

lud ,

You should demand a work phone but work apps are usually insolated from the rest of the system for both yours and your employers benefit.

PseudoSpock ,

It enables your job to track you off hours. Did you go to a protest on the weekend your company doesn’t approve of? If you aren’t careful, you might give it permissions to your photos. If it’s some form of 2FA, it might desire access to your SMS. In earlier days, the Outlook app use to be able to wipe the phone, it is more sandboxed now. But can you see how allowing access to your private information is a bad idea? Just say no. If it’s for work related apps, they owe you a device to run it on.

lud ,

The amount of tracking the intrusiveness of it highly depends on the type of management they used.

MAM or work profiles are most often used for personal devices and it grants the employer the ability to only manage specific apps and or profile.

MDM enrollment is used for corporate owned devices and is more capable.

Here is some documentation for MS Intune, it will be slightly different for other providers but it will be roughly the same: ……/android-deployment-scenarios-app…

If it’s for work related apps, they owe you a device to run it on.


railsdev ,

Who still uses Windows anyway?

Zorque ,

Most people who use PCs.

Francis_Fujiwara ,

Idc, i use Linux.

kryllic ,

…why would they?

achsonaja ,

For now

Railcar8095 ,

I’m afraid you might have misread the title… unless you’re very optimistic

achsonaja ,

lol you’re right. I misread that, my bad.

UziBobuzi , avatar

One of the top reasons I finally went Linux and I don't regret making the change one bit.

Sabre363 ,

How surprising. The company that only knows how to do one thing won’t stop doing the thing.

InputZero ,

In other news, company doesn’t think it’s to blame for it’s bad products says ‘it’s the consumers fault for having expectations of quality.’

lustrum ,

Not just that. Every windows update I have to go through the fucking setup screen. No I don’t want an office subscription, no I don’t want onedrive, no don’t tailor ads, no don’t collect telemetry.

strawberry , avatar

have u tried making installation media with Rufus? they'll let u use a local account and skip all that. also tiny 11 is what I use, cuts out Microsoft's bullshit

dingus , avatar

Rufus is a fucking godsend.

Edgarallenpwn ,

Love the username. CBB TV 4 life

TheMadnessKing ,

You could grab the ISO and use ventoy. No need to format USBs again and again. Can store multiple ISOs and whatnot.

railsdev ,

I ditched Windows like 15 years ago and never looked back. How can you cut out Microsoft’s bullshit when Microsoft’s bullshit is literally the OS? I’m not talking about spyware, telemetry, etc. I’m talking about the actual OS itself and its trash APIs, structure, etc.

What you’re talking about seems like a half-measure, the problem isn’t just a few things you can strip out of the OS, the problem is the OS itself.

strawberry , avatar

yea it only cuts some of it out, like one drive, edge, etc

as a gamer, Linux just doesnt work for me.

nimbus5000 , avatar


They just keep getting worse and worse! I've decided to investigate whether one of the Linux distributions is able to be my daily driver. With everything being a web app these days, incompatibility with business programs I use is no longer an issue. The only question now is, are my peripherals compatible?


Romkslrqusz ,

Settings > System > Notifications > Suggest ways I can finish setting up my device to get the most out of Windows

Disable this, there are a few others in that area you might consider disabling too

lustrum ,

Thank you!

PseudoSpock ,

The ONE time I miss reddit awards.

lud ,

You will just have to use good old poorly drawn images of coins.

possiblylinux127 ,

There’s always linux

railsdev ,

I really can’t think of any valid reason to use Windows in 2023 other than “it’s required for work” or “I’m just a gamer.” Not being a gamer myself I’m not sure how valid the latter is though.

N1cknamed , avatar

Because windows just works. I don’t want to deal with linux.

railsdev ,

No it doesn’t, it needs constant babysitting if you want it to remain stable. Even then, watch out for updates that’ll wreck your workflow, device drivers and/or the OS itself. The thing is hodgepodge code with layers of bullshit added on through the years. It’s a mess.

iegod ,

It does not.

railsdev ,

Have you used it? Lol

N1cknamed , avatar

Maybe for a small percentage of extreme power users who live on their computer. For me Windows lets me access all the programs and media I need with zero problems. I can not imagine Linux being anywhere near as hassle free.

railsdev ,

For me Windows lets me access all the programs and media I need

Oh wow, you mean it does the very bare minimum that any OS should do?

I can not imagine Linux being anywhere near as hassle free.

In what context? Opening programs and playing media? Lol

N1cknamed , avatar

Yes, it does what 99% of users require from it. On Linux I would immediately run into a bunch of programs that wouldn’t work out of the box, at which point I’d need to get into emulating. Which is something I do not want to deal with.

Windows works flawlessly without hassle, Linux does not. Easy choice to make.

Solemn ,

Adobe software for creative work. Afaik there’s okay replacements, but not great ones. Also, migrating your Lightroom catalog to a new software is kinda a ridiculous task

chiliedogg ,

“No reason to use Windows except 2 of the biggest reasons to use a PC.”

railsdev ,

If that’s all you need from your computer you might as well downgrade to a boot loader with audio support

Gush , avatar

I’m a professional gaymer and i use pop os daily

Flyberius , avatar

Now it just needs to stop forcing windows 11 on windows 10 users

abobla OP ,

the title says that Microsoft hasn’t stopped forcing Edge.

Flyberius , avatar

Oh shoot

EeeDawg101 ,

I read it the same way. I thought maybe this whole google getting taken to court business for manipulating their way to top search engine scared Microsoft by nah…

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