YouTube is starting to censor medical information

YouTube starts censoring medical information and content. And only content that "meets WHO guidelines" appears on YouTube. No other medical data.

I found this very dangerous, because people should be able to judge themselves what they want to read or hear about. It's our body and your health. I would like to make my own decisions.

More info: https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/13813322

BonesOfTheMoon,

So you are an antivaxxer and actively looking for weaponized disinformation campaigns? No worries, you can use Facebook for that. I’m sorry you are passively suicidal.

melroy,
melroy avatar

I'm not an anti-vaxxer.. Stop accusing me from things. Wanting to have freedom of speech doesn't make me an "antivaxxer"..

For instance Dr. Eric Berg is getting censored as well.

BonesOfTheMoon,

Eric Berg is an antivaxxer. Disinformation is not free speech.

melroy,
melroy avatar

Well then show me one video you "think" he is spreading misinformation without any disclaimers. Just sent me a video with the min:second time.

DLSchichtl,

Do your own work, dipshit. Not our fault you forgot to vet your own “doctor” cause he said something you agreed with, so do your own research. But you won’t. And that’s exactly why this youtube policy exists.

melroy,
melroy avatar

BS. You are spreading misinformation now, since you can't proof anything.

PseudoSpock,
@PseudoSpock@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Stop, you anti-vax troll.

melroy,
melroy avatar
PseudoSpock,
@PseudoSpock@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

No, I won’t be stepping in your links of poo. I’ll keep my shoes clean, thanks. Bye bye, blocked now you disinformation troll.

livus,
@livus@kbin.social avatar

I wish this were true but youtube is still absolutely dripping with snake oil.

CorrodedCranium,
@CorrodedCranium@leminal.space avatar

I don’t think it’s that bad personally. Misinformation is an incredibly dangerous thing that only requires a spark to get a fire going. Some social sites add context to posts but I don’t think that would work super well with YouTube considering how the recommendation section and sharing works.

foo,

On the flip side there is an extensive collection of quackery and misinformation on there

xilliah,

I’m actually surprised that youtube is finally showing some responsibility. Typically they have a lack of due diligence and it hurts people.

WeirdGoesPro,

New administration, new pandering.

For the record, I think this is a good move, I just don’t think YouTube is doing it out of altruism.

LinkOpensChest_wav,
@LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one avatar

Lol I’m glad YouTube is “censoring” harmful misinformation. I don’t want to have to watch my elderly parents and relatives die because some right-wing fuckwad says it’s not dangerous or that it can be treated by drinking horse cum or whatever pseudoscience you lot believe in atm

melroy,
melroy avatar

Even Dr. Eric Berg is getting censored. I agree with harmful information. But letting Google decide what you can see and what not in those cases are censoring. And the next steps are now easy to take. Before you know maybe your channels you like on YouTube get censored as well.

LinkOpensChest_wav,
@LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one avatar

“Dr.” Eric Berg is a quack and a grifter, so deplatform him as well, yeah I totally agree with that. I’d ban his ass from any space I moderate.

Before you know maybe your channels you like on YouTube get censored as well

If they start spreading lies that could get people killed, then I fully support that. I’m an anarchist, so I believe in equity for all, and such things need to be direct-actioned the fuck out of every community, along with other anti-human shitstains like the anti-trans losers and capitalists.

melroy,
melroy avatar

Please just give me a video where he is spreading lies. Or at least you think he is spreading lies without any disclaimer.

Sent me a link with timestamp of a video of him.

LinkOpensChest_wav,
@LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one avatar

I’m not going to do that, but it’s well known that he’s a fraud. There have been many threads about it on reddit. Nothing the man says should be trusted.

I wouldn’t trust someone as a train engineer who believes trains run on the ghosts of our ancestors, and I wouldn’t trust someone like Eric Berg to give medical advice. It’s good to hear he’s being deplatformed.

melroy,
melroy avatar

Too bad you can't provide any link. I don't trust anyone by default. That is whole point. I can think for myself what to believe or what not. I don't need YoutTube to deplatform people. I personally never heard about BRT (or any of other techniques), so I can't judge about this.

If people however got treated with Body Restoration Technique (BRT) with no side-effects but with only benefits for their health, I personally see no problem why people should not opt for this treatment.

As if the current "regular" healthcare knows everything (no). I have Tinnitus and regular healthcare cannot deal with it at all.

LinkOpensChest_wav,
@LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one avatar

I don’t mean to be a dick (although I kinda am), but “regular” healthcare is the only legitimate healthcare. I’m well aware there are cutting-edge techniques (such as electro-shock therapy for depression and hallucinogenics for addiction) that look promising but appear to be inhibited by capitalism and racist policies, but this is yet another argument for deplatforming and disenfranchising certain people, mostly conservatives.

And no, you can’t “think for yourself” in this case. We need to be guided by skilled experts, and Berg is not one who can be trusted. I wouldn’t call a shaman to fix my plumbing, and I would expect that one wouldn’t be sent to me so that I can “think for myself” – I just want shit fixed. Your mentality is literally killing people.

Demanding I watch some shitty YouTube videos so that I can comb through them for “evidence” is not a reasonable request. What I’ve sent you will suffice.

melroy,
melroy avatar

“regular” healthcare is the only legitimate healthcare

Sure, but the current healthcare doesn't has all the answers.. That was my point. In some cases or illnesses the legitimate healthcare can only say "you need to deal with it". Literally.

I can confirm all this, because: 1) I have Tinnitus which they can't thread. 2) I have a congenital heart defect, for which I had surgery as a baby. Without regular healthcare I was not here on earth...

Meaning I personally can say that the legitimate healthcare isn't bad (without it, I was dead), but at the same time it can have it's limitations. So I need to search also outside of the regular healthcare to help with my health issues.

Therefore, I can't trust WHO only or "skilled experts", because those experts sometimes also don't know it. Which is not a bad thing, I don't blame the experts. We are all human after all. But just understand that the current healthcare might not have all the answers that people need. I hope that is also a reasonable request from me.

LinkOpensChest_wav,
@LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one avatar

My dude, the skilled experts like the WHO are the best chance you got. Don’t trust quacks like that guy.

See, this is why we need to deplatform these people – so suckers like you won’t be harmed by desperately seeking solutions from non-experts, and yes it does affect the rest of us

melroy,
melroy avatar

That might be true, but then again at this moment in time the skilled experts have no answers for me.. That is the point. Maybe over 10 years. Maybe 30 years.. ? who knows.

LinkOpensChest_wav,
@LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one avatar

I do empathize with your situation. And I can’t help but feel that certain groups impede progress in this area, but those groups are not the experts in medicine, but people who also need to be removed from the conversation since they are causing harm.

LinkOpensChest_wav,
@LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one avatar

I know the feeling though. It took seven years for me to be diagnosed with celiac. Seven. Years.

But if I had resorted to some quack telling me I needed to hang upside down or use some herbs and oils, I’d still be shitting myself and wearing pads.

The system is broken, but the research is legit. We just need equal access to it.

DLSchichtl,

Eric Berg is an antivaxxing quack. Damn right he’s getting censored! He belongs in the same cage as Dr Phil and Oz. Worthless populist “doctors”

Stanley_Pain,
@Stanley_Pain@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Good, the vast majority of the do your own research types are huge morons or grifters…

PatFussy,

Im just wondering how much of this applies to anything other than covid. Can they censor a bodybuilder channel for citing a source outside of WHO guidelines? What about kinesiology from traditionally untrained people like kneesovertoesguy? Can they censor a home remedy channels that focus on spice/tonic recipes? Will they filter out crystal therapies(regardless if they are full of shit)?

In my opinion, I dont like any sort of censorship in this space. Let people figure out what works for them. Obviously, covid is different but they arent limiting the misinformation to covid.

Stanley_Pain,
@Stanley_Pain@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

If there’s anything humanity has shown is that we’re too stupid for “free speech”…

PatFussy,

That is such an awful thing to say. I hope you arent american.

Stanley_Pain,
@Stanley_Pain@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Thankfully I’m not.

PatFussy,

Makes sense. You have a blessed day

melroy,
melroy avatar

Indeed that was indeed a stupid thing to say, if this person know why free speech matters.

melroy,
melroy avatar

Basically all health related issues and topics, see: https://www.who.int/publications/who-guidelines

As if WHO know everything about all the health issues, the answer is no. They can't even thread Tinnitus.

melroy,
melroy avatar

It's funny that this post is heavily upvoted.
Since you are implicitly saying you are not a person who does own research or can't think for themselves?

I'm not an anti-vaxxer, I'm just saying what this statement might imply. What is wrong with doing own research? You can read books, read studies, read other people and doctors research papers.

MrJameGumb,
@MrJameGumb@lemmy.world avatar

Good. We don’t need more people saying you can cure illness by drinking bleach and injecting sunlight. Hopefully this new policy will save lives.

mateomaui,

“injecting sunlight”

I missed that, must have blacked out around the suggestion of a UV light bulb up someone’s ass or something, it fits the theme.

melroy,
melroy avatar

That I agree.. but that is not what some doctors are saying on YouTube (like Dr. Eric Berg, while also he is getting censored by YouTube). If you can't think for yourself that is not my problem.

melroy,
melroy avatar

Do you really need Google to censor videos that you shouldn't drink bleach. I think if those people can't think for themselves and start drinking bleach then .. well.. maybe there were not that smart after all.

MrJameGumb,
@MrJameGumb@lemmy.world avatar

You mean Dr Eric Berg the chiropractor? The same Dr Berg who has threatened his own son with legal action for not practicing a religion based on a science fiction novel written by a known con artist? That’s the guy you’re using to validate your argument?

DLSchichtl,

People love their little populist doctors that tell them want they want to heat

melroy,
melroy avatar

sorry.. It was just an example.

ijeff,
@ijeff@lemdro.id avatar

I found this very dangerous, because people should be able to judge themselves what they want to read or hear about. It’s our body and your health. I would like to make my own decisions.

YouTube shouldn’t be hosting and profiting from the spread of misleading and incorrect information that can impact peoples’ health. There’s a huge issue on their platform with people who do have some kind of credentials (e.g., nurse educator) doing an absolutely appalling job of trying to interpret epidemiological documents and “just asking questions” to suit their own narrative of mistrust - questions that are easily answered by a quick Google search.

OsrsNeedsF2P,

This link says they allow information from local health authorities? This would mean if the WHO was incorrect about something, every LHA would be able to publish information showing the contrary

melroy,
melroy avatar

yea well ideally... Good luck with that. You think that YouTube is able to cope with that many different entities and LHA's about whatever the 'truth' might be? Which depends on the original of the video and the author location.

morphballganon,

Telling people to drink bleach is not medical information.

melroy,
melroy avatar

What is with all the comments about drinking bleach? of course you shouldn't drink bleach... Are you all crazy?

bjoern_tantau,

There’s a lot of dangerous bullshit floating around on YouTube. I got Long Covid and if I followed the advice I got from some Long Covid videos on YouTube I’d be in the ER.

slazer2au,

should be able to judge themselves what they want to read or hear about. It’s our body and your health. I would like to make my own decisions.

While that is true you should have 100% autonomy over your body, what do you do as a non medical trained viewer watches a non medical trained person makes statements about medical procedures or medical offerings in direct opposition to a trained medical professional of many decades?

Hanabie,
@Hanabie@sh.itjust.works avatar

There are even doctors, nurses etc who spread misinformation. Sometimes to sell something, sometimes because they have a political agenda. YouTube is full of dodgy channels, and the amount of AI-generated trash content read by a TTS voice has shot up in recent years.

mateomaui,

A time-honored epidemic of stupidity led to that decision. Congrats on doing your part.

zoe, (edited )

Should have posted on peertube

melroy,
melroy avatar

I should.

zoe,

no, i meant people who got their videos downed

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